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Just saw this today from the boys on Pelican. I will wait in line for this. Hope the pic loaded.
 

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Tremondous looking bike.

I think it looks fantastic. Muscular and well integrated.

A natural progression of the K12 R-sport with a minimalist fairing.

LED headlights are VERY COOL. As is the taillight.

Seamless frame is PERFECT. Wonder how they are going to do that? Single cast or forged piece?

Doesn't look much wider than a Japanese big bore 4 cylinder.

Here's some HQ vids...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1uQ-f7tQ5M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nPYIhaGlE

I can't get over how well this bike looks. Who said Germans have no soul? :D

BMW needs to make this bike NOW! before too many riders defect to Honda. This bike looks WAY BETTER than the VFR1200.



 
#3 ·
I agree.build it now!..sure there will be changes like getting the cat in there and probly head lamp...LED that size? dunno ..But man they hit the nerve....and its shaft drive!!!...cant wait for the public show tomorrow and see what people say about the close up scan of this beast...just awesome! and its not overly "concept"...doable..Also love the fact that they went with a torque graph instead of the tach....ha ha ha.
 
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BAK04GT said:
OH...and go back to the BMW switch gear :D
Appears they did, or I can't see any pee pots on the photo.

They abandoned their asymmetrical look off the S1000RR pretty quick if this concept ever appears. Also, appears to be a frame slider under the front frame? Dealer's will loose a ton of money if they start protecting their pricey bodywork with sliders.

add...

Anyone notice there is no ignition key? Just an Engine Start/Stop button on the area near the gas tank cap. Must be a wireless FOB ignition.


Mack
 
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Engine is interesting...

I can't figure out the airbox. Looks far too small for a large displacement motorcycle.

It's maybe using a single fly by wire throttle body instead of individual throttle bodies. This makes SOOOO much practical sense as I've been thinking for a long time. Get rid of the overly responsive, touchy individual throttles and replace it with a smoother single throttle body and you can get rid of all the servo motors, throttle limiters and secondary plates.

This engine may be the trend setter for sport touring and touring bikes! As long as cost is reasonable. A perfect match for the duolever and paralever, IMO.

This bike plus the S1000RR. An inline 6 sport tourer and inline 4 superbike. BMW is swinging for the fences!!!
 
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I don't think the whole airbox is shown in that pic. Just the inner airways leading to the intake area.

But I'm more interested in the final drive. :D

While the outside casing of the final drive looks the same as the current K12/K13 models, the inside does look different. Definitely a different wheel flange and probably a different inner cover as well (to allow for a better inner seal?). Plus the caliper is in a different position. And the inner hub looks to have cooling fins added. Interesting . . .



Hold on, the above pic is a 3-D computer mockup. The detail from the build pics shows the same old inner final drive cover and flange. Oh well, it was a nice thought.

 
#15 ·
Meese said:
I don't think the whole airbox is shown in that pic. Just the inner airways leading to the intake area.

But I'm more interested in the final drive. :D

While the outside casing of the final drive looks the same as the current K12/K13 models, the inside does look different. Definitely a different wheel flange and probably a different inner cover as well (to allow for a better inner seal?). Plus the caliper is in a different position. And the inner hub looks to have cooling fins added. Interesting . . .

Hold on, the above pic is a 3-D computer mockup. The detail from the build pics shows the same old inner final drive cover and flange. Oh well, it was a nice thought.

I think it's a continual development project for BMW. I'll bet new iterations of the final drive are slowly introduced as they figure out a better design. That said, the final drive is a big mysterious black box to me. I know nothing about it.
 
#16 ·
JCW said:
I think it's a continual development project for BMW. I'll bet new iterations of the final drive are slowly introduced as they figure out a better design. That said, the final drive is a big mysterious black box to me. I know nothing about it.
Trust me, I know all too much about the internals of the final drives, which is why my eye went there first. I really hope they get it right this time . . .
 
#18 ·
I hate that bike. Hate it, hate it, hate it.

After my 5 month wait for parts and most of them arriving from the factory broken I swore I would never buy another BMW. Ever. No ifs, ands or buts

BUT - I still have the K1200R because it is a sensational machine. :wtf:
AND -I'm about to put an order in for the S1000R. :phonecall
IF -this wicked monstrosity arrives the next thing you know I'll have 3 BMWs in my garage instead of a lone Hondakawazuki. :clap:

I hate that bike.
 
#19 ·
Sorry to piss on your fires guys, but that bike isn't going to happen.

It's a concept, and its job is to gauge your reactions and as such you've just swallowed a hook some nylon line and a piece of lead. :rotf: If most people like it like you've done, then they're going to angle future bikes towards this concept.

But that bike is never going to happen. There's no way they'll be able to package it, even close. Look at those huge exhausts on the engine pic that JCW posted. Thos huge catalysators will have to be hidden under the bike. No chance.
And look at the wheelbase, you could circle an oil tanker underneath that. :teeth With all that billet machined alu-pr0n parts it would cost more than a 1198R too.

As concept it's beautiful and aggressive. We like that. But don't, for a second, fool yourselves that it'll be built.

Btw, did you all read:
Output of the new six-cylinder will be in approximately the same range as on BMW’s 1.3-litre straight-four power units. Torque, on the other hand, will be right at the top of the range, even in comparison with the largest motorcycle engines, such superior power and muscle coming inter alia from engine capacity of no less than 1.6 litres.

The engine’s power and performance characteristics are equally impressive, offering 130 Nm or 96 lb-ft of torque from just 2,000 rpm and at the same time revving up almost to 9,000 rpm – a dynamic potential quite unparalleled in the tourer segment. This alone qualifies the engine of the Concept 6 as the ideal power unit for a wide range of different motorcycles.
Doesn't sound like an engine I'd want, especially in an aggressive package like that.

Now here's food for though;
Take the S1000RR. Use Concept 6's styling, stick "funny forks" on it, and Robert's your uncle and you have a freakin' mean, lean street bike.
 
#20 ·
TheJoker said:
Sorry to piss on your fires guys, but that bike isn't going to happen.

It's a concept, and its job is to gauge your reactions and as such you've just swallowed a hook some nylon line and a piece of lead. :rotf: If most people like it like you've done, then they're going to angle future bikes towards this concept.

But that bike is never going to happen. There's no way they'll be able to package it, even close. Look at those huge exhausts on the engine pic that JCW posted. Thos huge catalysators will have to be hidden under the bike. No chance.
And look at the wheelbase, you could circle an oil tanker underneath that. :teeth With all that billet machined alu-pr0n parts it would cost more than a 1198R too.

As concept it's beautiful and aggressive. We like that. But don't, for a second, fool yourselves that it'll be built.
I wouldn't put it past BMW to pull something like this; however...

from 'FasterandFaster.net'

"According to BMW, the Concept 6 has been designed to look like a café-racer and features high-tech, cutting-edge chassis and suspension technologies – light alloy bridge frame and Duolever / Paralever arms holding and guiding the wheels front and rear. ‘Seventeen-inch forged wheels as well as the extra-large brake system with its six-piston fixed callipers emphasise the sporting look of the new machine and its high level of technology,’ claim BMW.

We must say BMW have come out with something of a shocker with their Concept 6, and the fact that it’s slated for production – rather than being a fanciful show bike – makes it even more amazing. Stay tuned for more details on this machine! "
 
#21 ·
TheJoker said:
Btw, did you all read:


Doesn't sound like an engine I'd want, especially in an aggressive package like that.
Definitely a different character engine, but IMO not a bad direction for a sport tourer.

Sounds like the motorcycle equivalent of a big block chevy, and those are a blast for cruising around in.

Haven't ridden a Vmax, but I would guess that that engine was tuned also for a low wide torque band.

Really have no idea, though, until BMW makes it!!!

The fact that there isn't a single pic or vid with it running makes me suspicious it's purely design and not functional.
 
#22 ·
JCW said:
The fact that there isn't a single pic or vid with it running makes me suspicious it's purely design and not functional.
Oh trust me, they do have a version of that engine running at BMW. Not necessarily in that exact bike package, but that engine will hit production.

I just think we'll first see it in a larger touring platform, where the increased low end torque makes sense for the higher weight bike and the relatively high redline still allows for some fun in the twisty bits.

Whether that Slant/6 then trickles down to the other K-bikes remains to be seen. But yeah, as pictured it's more mock-up and show-off than reality.
 
#23 ·
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they phase out the four R and/or S in terms of the 6-cylinder. A K1600R/S or something along with the K1600LT. Honda had that weird yellow 6-cylinder concept bike at the shows that became some $28K cruiser for a couple of years of production. It was just too damn heavy though.

I noted that it is keyless (probably an electronic pocket FOB) since it only shows a "Start and Stop Engine" button on the tank's top. I suspect they will all go that way sooner or later, no more metal keys and locks. Bike and car thieves love that easily mechanically compromised stuff.


Mack
 
#24 ·
The button looks the same on their cars. Our BMW uses a "key" that gets inserted into a slot but has no metal. I think it's all RFID.

I don't see how it's much different than the current bikes. A chip in the key actually unlocks the ecu. And instead of a handlebar mounted starter, they put it on the tank. Not really new. :dunno:
 
#25 · (Edited)
GPS said:
let's face it... we all knew this had to be said sooner or later... :snowlaff:
Stalling issues have all been resolved, post K1200... Ricardo help BMW... now you just have to worry about the crooked steering and the leaning to the right :rotf:

Actually it aint soo funny :( :crybaby:

Inline 6... I WAS going to say I bet it will red line @ 16k... but then I read "revving up almost to 9,000 rpm"

But as Joker said... it's a concept... and when do BMW concepts ever go production?

Where do I get the blue break fluid?
 
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