Originally Posted by Meese
Thanks for the info, as those are my local roads.
May through Labor day, huh? Guess I'll have to get most of my riding in this month
I was sort of wondering about the "speeding" thing. If the first rider had time to try and lay it down but spun around and got hit by a car, I somehow doubt if he was over the speed limit since witnesses were probably also around him and would have to be speeding also to be a witness to him on that remote turn. Sounds more like he was daydreaming and/or very inexperienced and just got scared. So the outcome is they get an overtime grant from the state (CA bankrupt?) and will now punish everyone for his inexperience.
Second one crossed over the center line and got killed in a head-on. Had that been done at any speed - even below the 55mph limit, which is often after-the-fact claimed excessive speed for conditions by the CHP - he probably would be a goner anyway.
One guy we used to ride with on a Yamaha Star cruiser almost always dropped his bike during a ride and I'm sure it would be called excessive speed by the CHP, but the problem was he slowed and just dumped it for a turn of which he was always too late entering behind the other "cruisers." I watched him ahead of me once and thought he might overshoot and miss the turn and, sure enough, he did and a cloud of dust ensued. Too fast for conditions, or just too slow in thought and prep?
Heck, I dropped the GT in a gas station driveway going about 2-4mph, but I'm certain the CHP would have called it "Too fast for existing conditions" (e.g. camber, traffic, position of pump driveway, whatever). I guess I should have walked it to the pump.
Reading through the link's comments, seems a lot owned a bike in the past and have a strong resentment now of riders. Even though they may have sped back then, absolutely no one
should do it now. I made it this long without a bicycle helmet (motorcycle too, although I always wore one back then) and no seat belt either, but no one else should. A lot of "anti-lane sharing" comments in it as well.