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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old May 24th, 2010, 8:57 pm Thread Starter
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Radar Detector Hell

I'm in radar detector hell...trying to figure-out the best set-up for my K1300S. I've done a lot of research and have concluded that there is no perfect solution...the perfect solution for me would be if Escort made a waterproof Passport 9500ix with an OEM looking visual alert system. Long story short...I've pretty much decided to buy the Adaptiv TPX...but have a few questions:

1) Is Adaptiv is coming out with a new and/or updated model in the near future? I would really prefer to have a sleeker looking unit.

2) Will the Adaptiv TPX work with the Pirate's Lair Stealth Radar Detector Mount? The reason that I ask is that I want the radar detector to look as discreet/streamline as possible, and I'm concerned that the Techmount Control Mount that Adaptiv sells with the unit will position the detector higher up (and less discreetly) than the Pirate's Lair mount would. Also, I'm a little concerned that the Techmount may position the detector in the way of the tach.

Any feedback (and pics) would be greatly appreciated.

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old May 24th, 2010, 9:19 pm
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You are right, it is hell trying to figure on what to buy.

If you do most riding in town, I'd go to the Escort 9500ix as it has a GPS in it and learns to filter out stuff like door openers and the like. They update it's database weekly on Monday so yo can also get things like speed cameras and red light cameras added into it which may help you.

On the open road, their Redline unit is pretty awesome and I've gotten boogies as far as 4 miles out. I doubt the Adaptiv has two antennas like the Redline to sniff out signals better. The Redline is not a GPS backed unit, but made for long-range detection with it's dual-antenna setup.

Both have earphone jacks unlike the Valentine One which requires another box. From that earphone jack you could feed a HARD system or Marc Parnes LED unit. I feed the earphone into a Autocom on all my bikes and that takes care of the warnings to me as it overrides the music and I hear "Ka Band" which is CHP in CA.

You can always toss a shower-cap cover over either unit if rain comes. Chances are you will slow down anyway so just toss the unit into your bags or wherever it is dry. Aerostitch has some covers for them too.

The irony of this is that I just got my Auto Club of So. CA Westways magazine and the CEO is telling how they oppose some if the additional fees being added onto a $100 fine making it closer to $500 now (i.e. court costs and buildings, CHP fees and retirement, county fees, etc.). So a good detector may cost you big dollars, but if it saves you just once.... (I know mine have - and I got 4 of 'em including "Da plane!" ).


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For what it's worth.. Yes the Adaptiv will work with our mount...

However... You might want to rethink this whole issue. The Adaptiv, while a well designed offering with great features, isn't even in the top 10 radar detectors. Yes.. it's water-proof.. that's a great plus if you speed in the rain. I don't. but it if doesn't protect you from the blue meanies... what's the point?

Speaking as a world renowned ticket magnet... I suggest you buy the best detector your wallet can afford and simply remove it or cover it when the rain comes.

Think about it.. unless you live in Washington state or Oregon, I'd imagine that 95% of your riding time is NOT in the rain... My 2 doubloons.
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post #4 of 26 (permalink) Old May 25th, 2010, 10:48 am
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The mount from Pirate's Lair works perfectly and can be located so that it does not block the view of the instruments. Use Industrial grade velcro to attach to the mount.

I have tried several radar detectors and have settled on Valentine 1 with the Marc Parnes visual device attached to the top and inside of my windscreen. I prefer to ride with ear plugs and don't have to get into the complexities of the audio devices. If I estimate the amount of money that the Valentine has saved me, it would easily justify the expense.

Waterproof is not really a problem. I slow down drastically on wet pavement and it only takes a few seconds to put the detector in my tank bag or cover it with a plastic bag. If I'm traveling, everything that will come off the bike easily goes into my room for the night.

I'll try to remember to take some pics and post them tonight.

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I'm another who's been looking for an RD that I can use on the bike (also in the car), but bike is the priority along with consideration of mounting. Valentine, Escort and Bel seem to be top rated (usually for cars), but there's not a whole lot of room behind the low screen on a K13S. Though not interested the least in audio (music) while riding, I like both visual and audio alert; would assume on bike visual might be more important - Yes/No?

I've read recently though that if you mount the RD behind a dark tint screen, it significantly hinders the RD's ability to pick up signals early. If that's the case, I'm wondering if some detectors have a remote mount that could be installed away from tinted screen, and possibly under the front fairing/headlight? Best locations to mount RD on a K13s? Looking also at GPS units that might be able to work in conjunction with an RD.

Appreciate anyone who can comment or advise since I'm just beginning a serious search.
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I'm another who's been looking for an RD that I can use on the bike (also in the car), but bike is the priority along with consideration of mounting. Valentine, Escort and Bel seem to be top rated (usually for cars), but there's not a whole lot of room behind the low screen on a K13S. Though not interested the least in audio (music) while riding, I like both visual and audio alert; would assume on bike visual might be more important - Yes/No?

I've read recently though that if you mount the RD behind a dark tint screen, it significantly hinders the RD's ability to pick up signals early. If that's the case, I'm wondering if some detectors have a remote mount that could be installed away from tinted screen, and possibly under the front fairing/headlight? Best locations to mount RD on a K13s? Looking also at GPS units that might be able to work in conjunction with an RD.

Appreciate anyone who can comment or advise since I'm just beginning a serious search.
David,
I have a Bel STi (undetectable) radar detector in my tank bag and it shoots thru my tinted screen. I can pick up enemy radar from 360 deg. The RD runs through my autocom so I can hear the alert. I also have a remote (came with the RD) that I have mounted on my dash. I can see the alert there. More importantly, I can mute the alert when it gets annoying sitting at a light or behind the enemy. I can also see that the RD is connected and working.
If you are not running with an autocom, then the HARD alert would be a consideration. See http://www.piratesk12site.net/ for a pic of the HARD.

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TPX idea is great but lack some effectiveness - http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=100585 for todays police. You have the bike - now don't leave her unprotected by 10 yr. old technology. You get what you pay for in the long run. Good luck. I run mine with a zip lock bag or bread bag around my RD.

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I'm using Pirate's mount with a Escort 9500 ix and the Marc Parnes visual alert and it's been GREAT ! I have to agree with Pirate, get the best detector you can afford.

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Thank you all for the very helpful (and wise) input and advise. You've convinced me that I need to go with a more sophisticated system. Here's the set-up I'm thinking about:

1) Escort 9500ix (already have one for my cage);

2) Pirates' Lair Stealth Radar Detector Mount (mount 9500ix using the velcro provided with the Piratesí Lair mount);

3) Marc Parnes Visual Alert (mounted on top of the onboard computer display);

4) Escort Direct Wire Cord connected to the CANBUS system via the BMW accessory connector (BMW part # 83300413585); and

5) Two velcro security straps (as back-up to the velcro that comes with the Piratesí Lair mount).

Now that Iíve got that figured-out, I have a few questions (some of which are pretty basic):

a) Since Marc Parnes does not make a customizable Visual Alert for the Escort, I need to go with the standard model. Will the 52 degree angle of the standard Visual Alert work well when mounted on top of my onboard computer display (I have a K1300S)?

b) Does the Escort Direct Wire Cord have a built in fuse? Is there a better direct wire that I should use? Are there any direct wires that come with waterproof plugs (since even though Iíll remove the 9500ix in the rain, the plugs will still be exposed)?

c) Which of the three wires on the BMW accessory connector do I need to use? I assume that I connect the ground to wire #1, but Iím not sure whether the main wire should be connected to wire #2 or #3. Iím guessing #2, since I do not need a delay on the radar detector. Does this sound right?

d) Assuming that I do all of the above wiring before connecting anything to the bike, do I need to disconnect the battery before I connect the BMW accessory connector (which will already be wired to the Escort Direct Wire Cord) to the CANBUS system?

Thanks in advance for any input you can provide.

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I'll try to answer your questions, here goes :
a) yes, no problem, I stuck mine on top of the computer display with the velcro, it is very visible when it fires, you need to turn the volume all the way up on the Escort.
b) yes, skip the canbus, direct wire it to the battery and it will make a cleaner set up.
The plug is not waterproof, but that has not been an issue. I just put it down behind the fairing when it's raining., and the fairing will give a surprising amount of protection to the detector in a light rain.
But I take my chances

It's always a good idea to disconnect the battery before doing any wiring.

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