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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Apr 20th, 2012, 1:33 pm Thread Starter
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I am 43 yrs old and have had sport bikes all my life and after a 300 mile ride on my 2009 R1 this weekend I realized that bike is not going to work for rides like that as my body was messed up the next day. I have always loved the looks of the BMW and am considering a k1200S or a K1200R and am curious which one is better for my needs? I want something comfortable enough that I can ride all day and not be sore the next. Is this a good fit for me as I still want something with some power but more importantly comfort.

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I am 43 yrs old and have had sport bikes all my life and after a 300 mile ride on my 2009 R1 this weekend I realized that bike is not going to work for rides like that as my body was messed up the next day. I have always loved the looks of the BMW and am considering a k1200S or a K1200R and am curious which one is better for my needs? I want something comfortable enough that I can ride all day and not be sore the next. Is this a good fit for me as I still want something with some power but more importantly comfort.-Ray
Disclaimer: I've never ridden a R1.

The BMW bikes you mentioned are or can be considered as having extreme sport bike ergonomics. I've done several 300 mile days on my K12s and always feel it at the end of the day.....but then again I'm 55 with bad knees.

Assuming you employ a good riding posture and understand sport bike ergos I recommend that you also look into making sure your riding garments fit well and are appropriate for the type of riding you like to do. I suggest this because there's one simple piece of clothing I swear by and that's my Aerostitch riding underwear. They look a lot like what bicycle racers wear only they're cut differently. You'd be surprised at how fatigued you can get by wearing cotton-based skivvies on a long day.

Aside from that but of advice I suggest you find someone near you with these types of bikes and pick their brains.

Good luck on your decision!

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The S and the R will be less extreme than the R1. Each will have its own better and worse qualities, but both will likely be more comfortable on a long ride than the R1, though not as sporty or fast? Both have plenty of power, though very different ergos. But a 300 mile ride is a 300 mile ride. If you are 'in shape' for it, no problem. That would be by either doing lots of riding and building up the stamina of the associated muscles, etc, or by keeping in shape in other ways. When I used to work out 4-5 days a week, I was always the last person off the track at our annual track day, then rode home, . I am not in that type of shape anymore and my 185 miles to Sac in the morning and then back to Mendo in the evening sort of gets to me, especially this time of year when I have not ridden much. But, there is a difference even between my RS and my S, different muscles are tight the next day depending on which I ride. By the end of the summer, neither will bother me even without doing any other conditioning. But if I get off my arse and workout again....it all should be better much sooner. (57, 5' 11", 180 lbs)

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I know they wont be as fast as the R1 now as light but that is ok. As for being in shape i am actually in very good shape but the riding position on the R1 is very aggressive. What I want is a bike that is still sporty, fast, can have fun in the twisties and when not riding aggressively is very comfortable riding a few hundred miles as I would like to take a trip on whatever I end up buying to replace the R1. I really like the looks and HP of the K1200S and K1200R. Is there anything else I should look at. I am hoping to get out to one of the BMW dealers and ride both of these to see which one I like better.
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They'll both be way better than an R1. Both have much better footpeg placement. Way more room than an R1. It you're going to use for any touring, then the S or R Sport are the best choice. Better wind protection. The R leaves you in the wind, and is downright not pleasant at high speeds. For my money, the S is almost the perfect bike.
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Thanks for the info.
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And their seats are far better as well, better gas mileage, will not be pulled over as often by police, and you can get a higher windshield. I've been since I got mine.

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Have you taken any trips on yours or spend multiple hours riding?
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old Apr 30th, 2012, 7:46 am
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I had this on my '06 K21200r with Rizoma bars almost from day 1.

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot...R/8601350.html

Result was a damn near perfect riding position for me. I did a Saddlesore 1000 on the bike and put several 500 mile days on it while I had it.

Spiegler makes something similar. I've seen this setup on a R1100s. Looks pretty good.

http://www.spieglerusa.com/handlebar...n-kit-4235.htm

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I've been over 45k on stock K12Ses, mostly coast to coast long days and no issues. I'm almost 73 yo, but no physical issues. I shift around on the stock seat, dangle my feet, and rest my wrists from time to time. Stop often because the tank only holds 4 gallons ( the most I've put in was 4.3 gal and sweated the last 35 miles while the fuel gauge, POS that it is is, was screaming 0 miles to go).

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