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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 13th, 2006, 10:06 pm Thread Starter
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KS low speed handling

Okay, I really like my S and all & I can keep up with the boys in the twisty stuff & this thing is perfect on the highway, but I'm noticing more and more how poorly it handles at low speed.

Proper pressure in the (new) M1's, ESA on rider+luggage for this 205 pounder.

I especially notice it after swapping with a friends Tuono or my 600 track bike.

Seems worse than when I got it a few months ago. It's an' 06. Anybody else notice this, or is it just me? Can the damper tighten up?

I've found a temporary solution. I don't ride slow.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 13th, 2006, 11:56 pm
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Two things put you at this disadvantage.

Wheel base and weight. I'll bet both of the other bikes mentioned are shorter wheel-based and weigh in much less. K bikes don't really like to go slow...



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Have you set the sag in the rear. VERY important. I like about 1" of sag for quick steering. Try increasing rear preload a few turns. Turn in and steering response should be noticeably quicker.

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Have you set the sag in the rear. VERY important. I like about 1" of sag for quick steering. Try increasing rear preload a few turns. Turn in and steering response should be noticeably quicker.
He has ESA, you cant set the preload then... And he has the bike set up for rider + luggage so shouldn't have problems.

BCC - can you explain more what you mean by "poor handling" at low speed?

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He has ESA, you cant set the preload then...
The settings for "single rider', "rider with luggage", and "rider and passenger" are the preload settings.

It's not the speed that kills, it's the rate at which the speed diminishes...
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The settings for "single rider', "rider with luggage", and "rider and passenger" are the preload settings.
Yeah, I do understand that :p but preload clicks arent available and he did already mention what setting he was using "rider with luggage"

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though i might be slightly biased, you may want to look at our adjustable torque arm. this allows you to increase rear ride height which helps turn-in.

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... I'm noticing more and more how poorly it handles at low speed.
The mighty K just isn't built to go slow and doesn't like to be in city traffic. That's what Harley's and their clones are for. I just try to keep it on the open road and if I get tied up in traffic or somewhere I'm forced to go slow, I just deal with it.
You're never going to make it into a good bike for city or slow speed driving. If you modify the KS to change it's low speed handling characteristics, you may find you've adversely effected it's high speed prowess.

No bike does everything perfect. The R1200GS is the only bike I've ever owned that comes close in most areas but lacks reaching perfection in any one. On the other hand, the KS comes close to perfection in what it was designed for with a few shortcomings in where it was not.

Accepted for what it is and ridden as intended, the positive attributes of the KS far out weigh the minor issues.

You will find inner peace and happiness accepting the KS for what it is and you'll and save a ton of cash and time other wise wasted trying to defy it's nature.

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adjustable torque arm

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though i might be slightly biased, you may want to look at our adjustable torque arm. this allows you to increase rear ride height which helps turn-in.
That's what I'm trying, I just bought one last night. I'm sure the torque arm will help and has received very good reviews from everyone that's tried it.
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. It is the turn-in that's the issue. I mean the bike is stable as anything, it's just that I'm noticing the (relatively) poor lower speed manoeuvrability more & more, and was wondering if it was just me.

H'mmm, adjustable torque arm. I'll check it out.

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