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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 21st, 2005, 9:25 pm Thread Starter
 
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Quick Question on ESA

<<At the track it started to slide in a corner and I felt I reached the limit - untill I dicovered the ESA was in Comfort position - after I changed to Sport - didnīt I have the balls to search the sliding point, cause it was moved quite farrrrr >>

Above is a quote from The Mad Dane on Chip4's thread" "Some Pictures"...of his K-R.

Just wondered whether anyone routinely hits the esa button and switches from comfort to sport in the middle of a turn? If some of you do, does this tend to unsettle the bike at all in a medium to fast curve?

Decided to ask the question here, since I ride a K-S.

The reason for the question(s) is that I get these kind of senior moments when going from a straight road in the comfort setting onto a road with linked curves. It usually dawns on me after starting the first lean that the bike is floating into the turn in the comfort setting. I then instinctively reach for the button, but so far have held off until completing the turn before make the button adjustment to "sport" and returning to the business at hand.

It be better if I could hit the button mid-turn w/o any concern over the bike getting skidderish.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 21st, 2005, 10:41 pm
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It's an interesting question. I didn't think the ESA reacted that quickly. Maybe it does...
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 21st, 2005, 10:46 pm
 
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I think it's more likely he was talking about being in sport mode at the NEXT corner; not in the same one- not changing in the middle of the corner. I also think that screwing with the button in the middle of the corner instead of concentrating on what you are doing pretty much defines "ill advised". :-)

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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 21st, 2005, 10:54 pm
 
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<<At the track it started to slide in a corner and I felt I reached the limit - untill I dicovered the ESA was in Comfort position - after I changed to Sport - didnīt I have the balls to search the sliding point, cause it was moved quite farrrrr >>

Above is a quote from The Mad Dane on Chip4's thread" "Some Pictures"...of his K-R.

Just wondered whether anyone routinely hits the esa button and switches from comfort to sport in the middle of a turn? If some of you do, does this tend to unsettle the bike at all in a medium to fast curve?

Miles
First: I didnt' get the impression from reading the above quoted that the guy changed the setting in the middle of the turn. On the other hand, maybe no one is trying to imply that he had.

Second: Almost anything you do while leaned over into a turn other than ride smooth, and roll on appropriate throttle is going to upset the bike to some degree.
As a general rule, it's best to have the bike set up before leaning over into the turn. There have been times when I've had to apply a bit of brake in the turn but that's usually because I either misjudged my entry speed or I'm gaining too much on a slower rider.
Other than that, I wouldn't ever try to adjust the suspension settings during a turn. If find you have the wrong setting, ride through it the best you can and make adjustments during the strait before the next turn. Otherwise, your just asking for trouble.
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 22nd, 2005, 7:16 am
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also if you really have time to thiink about adjusting your esa and actually can adjust your esa in mid corner then you most likely are not any where near the limit of your riding ability to make it thru the corner so there is no danger of crashing leaving it where it is till after the corner.
If you are so near the edge of your riding ability that you are in danger of crashing in the corner then ESA even if it didnt upset the bike wouldnt save you either as you are over your head and there are far more important things to be doing then stabbing at the ESA button.

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pretty simple really in that you ought to keep it on "sport" setting in the twisties and forget about it. There was recent discussion on this on another post, but my understanding and experience is that you should jack up the rear somewhat by setting ESA to 2 riders with luggage. Helps.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:45 am
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That'll teach you to ask a question Miles! But, here's an even bigger question . . . competes with a 'meaning of life question' . . . I am looking just above the QUICK REPLY window and there's an innocent title that says "Similar Threads". Now, being a meek and sensitive person I just have not had the nerve to click on it. But, for some unknown reason it seems that this Similar Threads window appears to be a Random Thread Generator. Your ESA question sucked out these two Similar Threads: FUNCTIONALITY QUESTION; NEW POSTS and ZTECHNIK SHORT WINDSHIELD . . .

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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 22nd, 2005, 10:55 am Thread Starter
 
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Thanks guys,

Start with the conclusion first, based on your information: just leave the esa button alone until after completing the turn and before initiating the next turn.

I wasn't too clear in defining the issue. There are times when I should have swtiched to "sport" and just forgot it's in the comfort mode. The bike then tells me as soon as I enter the turn, at a safe, but quick pace, that it's really in "comfort" mode in the way it's handling the turn; i.e. too soft and imprecise.

The good news form me, is that I'm rarely at the "limit", if ever, and can handle the turn in a safe manner even in the "comfort" setting. It's just that it would have been more fun in "sport" if I had remembered to set it up that way before the turn. Like the Mad Dane, you can tell instantly if you are in "comfort" when, perhaps, you should have been in "sport"; but definitely not leaned over and going as fast as he is on the track.

And yes, it is best to concentrate on the turn without any extraneous thoughts interferring. And that's the reason for the post; when it's obvious that the bike is not happy, instantly figure out the suspension is not set-up to where it should be, it upsets that concentration and my left index finger instinctively moves toward the esa button. Not good; will just complete the turn and go for the button afterward.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 24th, 2005, 2:59 am
 
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I have the opposite problem - I tend to leave the bike in 'Sport' mode and then get onto a badly corrugated rural road full of manure and pebbles and think while cranked into a turn: 'Sh*t! Should have changed to Comfort, then I wouldn't be in danger of compacting my spine!'

Then at the first opportunity I switch to Comfort and forget about it until I'm cranked over at high speed on a good road and think ... Well, you get the picture!

As usual, it's the human element of the system that can't be predicted ...
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