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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Mar 12th, 2008, 3:24 pm Thread Starter
 
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Motorcycle Test Ride Question.

I'm selling a K1200GT and people will want to test drive the bike. This is my only bike. I have seen ads for bikes where the seller states that with a check or cash in hand, you may take a test ride. This seams a little too extreme to me. My insurance agent said all insurance policies cover you for a 24 hour period for test drives and if you have auto insurance, they will cover a motorbike as long as you have an endorsement. My agent suggested getting some info in writing and stating that the person taking a test ride is responsible for the insurance deductable. I found some “test drive agreements” on line.

Here is an agreement I was going to ask people to sign.

Any comments on this agreement or agreements in general? Let me know your thoughts on test rides.




Vehicle Test Drive Agreement

In consideration for being allowed to test-drive a 2007 BMW K1200GT motorcycle, which is available to purchase for $16,995 US, I accept full responsibility for any and all resulting damage, claims, costs, and liabilities related to my use of the vehicle listed below. The insurance deductable on the bike is $500 and I agree to pay this amount to <your name here> within 3 business days if I damage the K1200GT or to buy the motorcycle for $16,995 outright with no repairs being made to the K1200GT.

I accept that this agreement is between the party signed below and <your name here>. I also accept that <your name here>has no responsibility for my actions while test driving the motorcycle. I confirm that I have a valid Oregon Driver’s License and insurance to cover my liability. I agree to stay within a 5 mile radius during the test drive and to return the vehicle within 15 minutes.

Person Test driving K1200GT
Name:
Address:
City:
State:
ZIP:
Phone Number:
Driver License Number:
Expiration Date:
Date of Test Drive:


Vehicle Information
Year, Make and Model:
Vehicle Identification Number:

I agree to the above terms and Conditions:
Person Test Driving:
Signed Date:

Owner:
Signed Date:

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I've sold quite a few bikes and I can only tell you what I've done...

In my advertisement I always say up front that there will be no test rides unless cash or cashiers check is in my grubby little hands. Also.. I make them sign a brief form similar to what you've come up with saying that if the bike goes down.. they've bought it. ..(Good form, BTW) Also.. and this is important... check his drivers license and make sure it's valid and for a motorcycle. For all you know the last time he rode, Herbert Hoover was in office and motorcycles only had 35 horsepower and 4 gears..

With all this info up front you'll filter out any squids. Once the potential sucker... er.. buyer shows up you can THEN evaluate if you will hold them to the conditions. If he LOOKS and sounds like a serious rider (like most of us are).. you might let him slide on your conditions.

I've seen a guy test ride a bike.. (Not mine)...He got on swearing he knew how to ride and then rode 300 feet straight into a brick wall at full throttle...He never hit the brakes.. never let off the throttle...the bike was totaled.. he went to the hospital and my buddy was out a motorcycle..

Better safe than VERY sorry...

BTW.. I've had powerful motorcycles up for sale and kids showed up with money to buy there FIRST bike and I refused to sell the bike to them as I knew they were inexperienced and didn't want to see them get killed. Some get mad.. a few thanked me. Yes.. I lost a sale or two but I could sleep at night...

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The issue I've been most concerned with is theft. A potential buyer can have all the fake ID in the world - sign your release and vanish with your bike. The cashier's check can be fake as well.

No demo rides for me when I sell a bike. Most dealers other than BMW won't allow demo rides so it should not be a big issue for a buyer to get their arms around.

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BTW.. I've had powerful motorcycles up for sale and kids showed up with money to buy there FIRST bike and I refused to sell the bike to them as I knew they were inexperienced and didn't want to see them get killed. Some get mad.. a few thanked me. Yes.. I lost a sale or two but I could sleep at night...

Hope this helps..
Same thing happened to me. A young, single mother of three had never ridden a bike. She wanted my 1975 Honda CB400F to use for a daily commute from Orange County to Burbank, which is a long ride from one side of the Greater Los Angeles Area to the other in heavy traffic, splitting lanes. I didn't learn any of it until she showed up at my house, cash in hand. I refused to sell. I hope I saved her life.
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i've sold a few bikes. i guess i look at it as if i was a potential buyer and wasn't allowed to test ride a bike. it is a tough decision. at least make them show up with a wad of cash for the deductible and the contract together should be sufficient. license mandatory.

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The last bike I sold I let the guy ride my bike around the parking lot we were in but only after I had his money, driver's license and his truck keys in my hands. I was going to make that my ground rules if he asked for a test ride but he actually suggested it.


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I was thinking about dealers. Most offer test rides over here if you can convince them of your competence. But then I realised, they have the damage agreement you sign, insurance and plenty more bikes to sell.

When it's your own bike and you need the cash to finance something else, you run a much bigger risk. I never put much faith in agreements. They make you feel better, but the result of a test ride gone wrong is what matters.

I remember a post here I think from somebody (experienced) who test rode a new bike with new tires that hadn't been scrubbed in, and piled up the bike (ouch!). I don't know how he got on (bike and body wise), but at least the dealer can repair bikes on better margins than we get charged.



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I was in the local BMW delaer a year or two, and watched the following happen:

An old geezer( probably younger than me) and his girl friend ( wife, or ?) came into the showroom and walked over to an LT on its sidestand. he promptly got on it and immediately tipped over, and in the process knocked over 5 other bikes like dominos. he apologized to the store manager and then left immediately. The store manager was a little pissed and he said, that there was probably 3 to 6 thousand in repairs.

My local Honda dealer has a box and a sign on every bike's seat, specifically saying that no one can sit on a bike without a salesman's OK.

I sold a bike several years ago, after letting the prospective purchaser leave his old ( not too old1) bike in my driveway with the keys. He rode for a good half hour and of course I was getting worried. Id id have his home address, work address( that was previously verified) and the keys to his old bike. Anyway, he loved the bike and bought it for greenback cash a week later..

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The issue I've been most concerned with is theft. A potential buyer can have all the fake ID in the world - sign your release and vanish with your bike. The cashier's check can be fake as well.
No demo rides for me when I sell a bike. Most dealers other than BMW won't allow demo rides so it should not be a big issue for a buyer to get their arms around.
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Take his picture on the bike before he leaves....helmet off.
The bike is still gone, and probably wadded up by the time the cops - if they do - match the body in the morgue to your photo.

I'm not particularly trusting I guess, but I have never had to provide a demo ride to sell a bike. If the buyer has that as a requirement s/he isn't buying my bike. People buy bikes off EBay without demo rides...

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