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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Jun 20th, 2008, 10:47 am Thread Starter
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Otay, here's the scenario: I'm laid down on the bike, laid over into a corner and slightly hanging off. The only way I can think of describing this is the more I hang off the more my inside hand becomes unweighted. It feels like I can't push anymore.... if I had to.

It hasn't been a problem, the bike just smoothe nails it like it was on rails, or telepathic. But, it does bother me. Like, what if I was surprised by a tightening radius?

I've experimented with it- instead of taking a 20 mph doglegged curve (that I'm real familiar with) at 60, I've tried it at 40. In order to weight the inside hand to push more, I either have to lessen the hang off, or sit up some. This happens on both sides.

BTW, it doesn't affect throttle modulation, just the handlebar push.

Any advice from you strafers?

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old Jun 20th, 2008, 10:58 am
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If I am hearing you right, you may be hanging off too much and would benefit by staying in the seat a little more. That will help you regain some leverage on the inside hand. Or you just might need to get a Ducati Desmo
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About half the butt off the seat BUT more importantly your upper torso should be to the inside of midline. Eyes looking through the turn.

Your right arm should be relaxed and not tense, can even rest on the tank if the bike fits well and your body position is right.

I wonder if you are trying to hang onto the bike with your right hand/arm too hard keeping your upper body from getting on the inside of the turn? Making feel like you can't make steering corrections?

Keep back and low, no high and forward.
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I thinks that it!! I'm prolly hanging off with the body and not just the butt. Thinking about it, the bod is outside the midline.

I always look thru a turn. Kinda keeps you from wadding.

The only time I ride high and foward is this neat road call Amman Road. A veritable rollercoaster- you WILL get air. I love taking friends down that road. Most of them pull up to the stop sign laughing their ass off.

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If I am hearing you right, you may be hanging off too much and would benefit by staying in the seat a little more. That will help you regain some leverage on the inside hand. Or you just might need to get a Ducati Desmo
I kind of like sleeping in my bed... if ya know what I mean.

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That was it. The bod was hanging over the midline of the bike with the butt.

I sat there today in my office going nuts wanting to try it out. Finally said, scrag this shit and rode.

Now I realize that I have a bad habit to overcome. Have to conciously force myself to stay midline. Reckon I just need to practice, practice, practice. oh, darn!

Thanks, y'all!!!

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Oh ship, now you've gone and made him faster.
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Maybe I'll get rid of that last piece of fucking chicken strip. Drives me crazy!!! About 1/4" and I lean till I freak myself out.

I know hanging off changes the geometry and it's probably what's doing it.

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Maybe I'll get rid of that last piece of fucking chicken strip. Drives me crazy!!! About 1/4" and I lean till I freak myself out.
Yeah. Body off = bike more upright = less tire angle = more chicken strip. Try hanging off the other side, that'll get rid of 'em.
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I use the Keith Code method, and at first it is not natural, but soon feels right.

In a right turn use your left leg for support and you will be pushing with your right hand. this will balance your body. You will have very little weight on your right leg/foot.

Hunging off is good, put the weight on the peg not the seat the bike loves it.

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