Edge traps! - K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 2008, 5:13 pm Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: , IL, USA
Posts: 75
Edge traps!

Here in the Chicago area, we've been contending with major road construction all summer. Both I-294 and the Edens Expressway, the two major North-South routes, are or have been almost completely redone, complete with bridge reconstruction. I can't imagine how these projects have been permitted to happen simultaneously, but that's another matter.

In any event, I was traveling northbound on the Edens Expressway today. All three lanes have received one layer of new asphalt. Now, here's the problem: the left and middle lanes have also received what appears to be the second and final layer of asphalt, but the right lane hasn't, creating a potential "edge trap" for motorcycles trying to change from the right lane to either the center or left lanes.

The height of this final layer appears to be about 1.5 to 2 inches high. I was in my car, so I intentionally drove over it to try to judge the height and the effect on my tires. I could definitely feel the "ridge" as I crossed it.

Here's my question: does anyone but me think it's crazy for IDOT (IL Dept. of Transportation) to have allowed this to happen, even on a temporary basis? It seems to me that it is potentially very dangerous for unsuspecting motorcycle riders, especially after dark. And given the upcoming H-D celebration in Milwaukee this weekend, I have seen dozens of bikes riding on the expressway.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on the subject. I'd even consider contacting IDOT or the Illinois State Police if most here agree with my concern.

2006 K1200GT - Graphite

Last edited by gc916; Aug 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm.
gc916 is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 2008, 6:16 pm
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Livermore, CA, USA
Posts: 110
Where I'm working south of Seattle (Puyallup area) they are paving a long stretch of 4 lane road leading out to the Boeing wing plant. There are signs everywhere warning motorcyclists about paving edges. Seems like at least a sign would be in order.
cbdane is offline  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 2008, 8:13 pm
no power in the 'verse can stop me
shook sez's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: n.e.ohia, , usa
Posts: 1,126
Every time I've encountered these things the DOT puts up signs warning

I wouldn't worry a lot about the Harley thing though, most of them will be
on trailers.

tim-----still on the right side of the frostline

you can't stop the signal
shook sez is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 2008, 8:54 pm
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago, IL,
Posts: 138
I'm also in Chicago and know what you mean. The Edens has been a pain. I have never, ever seen a warning sign on any of our expressways for motorcycles and the 'lane ridges'. Considering one or more are under construction every year I think I would remember.
I usually try go over to the far side of the lane I'm in and then sort of swing over onto the ridge, kind of an almost turn. Trying to just roll on up doesn't seem to work too well.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the H-D's either. They usually have enough dead weight in the center to stay up.
AugWest is offline  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 2008, 10:58 pm
jgr451's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wet Coast, , Canada
Posts: 418
What about those tar snakes?
I would think they would be illegal as creating a very treacherous surprise for the unwary.
jgr451 is offline  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 2008, 1:40 am
chuckheinch's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: el dorado hills, CA, usa
Posts: 1,271
they do seem dangerous especially without warning. near my house they have been working on a stretch of major highway and have no warning signs up. the changes in levels is not as extreme as you describe, but they also have been removing asphalt and it creates these "grooves." as you ride over them you bike wobbles back and forth. scary the first couple of times riding over them, but now i know what to expect. it has a huge impact on handle if you needed to take emergency maneuvers.

speaking of snakes, i almost ate it this weekend when i went around a tight turn and my rear washed out for a second, caught traction, then violently went from side to side. almost crapped my pants, but managed to stay in the turn on the pavement. i guess i was going wayyyyy faster than the posted speed limit.

06 K1200R,76 Yamaha RD400 VOID 7/08 ,03 Kawi ZX-6R VOID 10/10/06, 94 Suzuki GSXR-750 VOID, 85 Yamaha FJ1100 VOID
chuckheinch is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 2008, 8:56 am
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: phoenix, AZ, usa
Posts: 459
Same thing happened to me a few yrs back on the yammie FZ1, was hauling down the on ramp to I-95 entrance in baltimore, new ashphalt was so black you couldn't see the 2" difference in height! I knew it was new pavement but no signs warning of the ridge.

Caught me totally unaware but managed to slide over it without incident....somehow.

Worse tar snakes ever...east coast of lower MI heading up to the bridge, a frogchoker hits us, half the road was tar snakes, had the SO on the back of the K1200LT, no place to stop (except in the forest), very scary ride.
ldbikin is offline  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 2008, 1:02 pm
aj7840's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rockford, MI, USA
Posts: 363
Originally Posted by ldbikin
Worse tar snakes ever...east coast of lower MI heading up to the bridge, a frogchoker hits us, half the road was tar snakes, had the SO on the back of the K1200LT, no place to stop (except in the forest), very scary ride.
No No not the east coast of lower MI, ALL of MI,
That's why we produced so many good flat trackers like Springsteen, Parker, et al, when your sliding all the time, the next step is to just pitch it side ways.

'07 K1200GT Crystal Gray Metalic
'00 Ducati 900 Monster
aj7840 is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I need a push over the edge Friday K12/1300GT (Next Gen) 11 Apr 1st, 2008 4:23 pm
French Test of K1200GT eljeffe K12/1300GT (Next Gen) 12 Jun 17th, 2006 7:25 pm
Laminar Lip install location jChevy04k1200rs K1200RS/GT (Classic) 3 Apr 1st, 2006 8:50 pm

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome