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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old May 28th, 2010, 2:14 pm Thread Starter
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Is it wise to try and beat the locals on their own turf?

I've ridden some canyons on the GT and S, but sometimes I get the impression that the locals who travel the same road daily may be a bit ahead of me in the game plan.

I had some teenage girls in a VW bug that absolutely blew me off the canyon road like I was standing still. That VW bug could corner! I spotted their license plate frame dealer logo and recognized they were residents to the area I was in. Even a UPS truck took the canyon roads like a madman loose on meth or something. Never saw a big brown UPS truck go that fast, but he too probably drove that same road daily.

I wonder if it is wise to try and even keep up with the locals at times? Sometimes in group rides it seems the appointed leader, who obviously knows the area better than those who follow, sets a pace where the group unknown to the area becomes separated and the entire ride becomes disjointed.

Ride your own ride I guess.


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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old May 28th, 2010, 3:45 pm
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huh?

From what I have read in your post, no. I have never considered a Veedub beetle serious competition in the cornering, braking or accelerating stakes. (do love em though, always have had a beetle)
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A VW Bug....

Well I had a couple on them and often surprised some muscle car drivers with their cornering abilities. 100 Mph top speed and pretty gutless on acceleration, but if you could get the speed up before getting into the twisties they could give most sport cars from the 60's and 70's a run for their money. The SuperBeetles that is, not the regular short ones.

But don't feel too bad about that, I had all sorts of vehicles try to tail me in curves,most often when I am loaded with camping gear and want to tour, not race. I don't bother with them anymore and let them pass, safer that way. I have better things to worry about than the morons in my rear view mirror.....but then I usually get to blow by them later anyway.

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I was on my LT with the wife on the back, stuck behind a FedEx tractor with a shortest trailer. I was moaning as we were heading onto a road that I knew was narrow and tight as we had taken the same road into the area. I never had a chance. That guy moved along at a pace that to this day I tip my hat to. I can only hope it wasn't a couple of teenage girls driving that rig.

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As always, you should ride your own ride within your limits. Trying to keep up with someone who is faster than you, regardless of the road, vehicle, ability to text while driving, etc., is a recipe that is destined for a very bad ending. Unless you like that sorta thing.

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As always, you should ride your own ride within your limits. Trying to keep up with someone who is faster than you, regardless of the road, vehicle, ability to text while driving, etc., is a recipe that is destined for a very bad ending. Unless you like that sorta thing.
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I recently had a guy in a VW Transporter van "Keeping Up" with me in some spectacular roads in Tasmania.
He was using both lanes in every corner and had numerous near miss's before I just pulled over and let him go.

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I kinda agree with that, but many think most decent bikes should be ahead of the game against cars. That might be so on tracks, but cars have the advantage of 4 wheels. On the short straight the bike always wins, but sustained riding/driving hard twisties is a lot easier for the car and whereas a slide is ok and can be controllable for the car, it can be curtains for the bike and/or rider.



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On my first tour of the north west highlands of scotland I was in a decent enough sportscar.

Got tailgated by a school bus (it was empty) to such an extent I had to pull over and let him pass.

A couple of days later I was doing 75 mph odd on a lovely straight bit of deserted road when a Landrover Defender suddenly appeared behind me and then overtook me at speed.

I didn't think Landrovers went that quick - especially when towing a flat bed trailer! :

Suffice to say that was one mad teuchter I'd rather have in front of me.
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A VW Bug....

Well I had a couple on them and often surprised some muscle car drivers with their cornering abilities. 100 Mph top speed and pretty gutless on acceleration, but if you could get the speed up before getting into the twisties they could give most sport cars from the 60's and 70's a run for their money. The SuperBeetles that is, not the regular short ones.

But don't feel too bad about that, I had all sorts of vehicles try to tail me in curves,most often when I am loaded with camping gear and want to tour, not race. I don't bother with them anymore and let them pass, safer that way. I have better things to worry about than the morons in my rear view mirror.....but then I usually get to blow by them later anyway.
I think this VeeDub could blow most of us away.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfZycYhzC0 I am pretty sure I couldn't get my k12r around that fast.
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I think this VeeDub could blow most of us away.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfZycYhzC0 I am pretty sure I couldn't get my k12r around that fast.


I think some of the newer VW Beetles are turbo's with engines in the front along with front-wheel drive.

All I know is that girl could drive that thing. Probably some Danica Patrick wannabee. It has a very low CG and her and her friend were flat gone.

Of course, teenage girls are invincible too.


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