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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 26th, 2006, 1:12 pm Thread Starter
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Radar detectors or Jammers

Just finished a bunch of articles on the site about detectors. Also ended up on a site about jammers. End result, I was wondering if anybody had first hand knowledge on the jammers. I have started thinking about getting something and was thinking about a Valentine. Then read about the jammers and was figuring that a detector is not necessary if a jammer is obtained.

Yes I know some states do not allow jammers.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 26th, 2006, 2:17 pm
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some of the states do not allow detectors, NONE of the states allow jammers.
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some of the states do not allow detectors, NONE of the states allow jammers.
It is not the individual States that do not allow jammers. They are federally regulated under the FCC, as is anything that transmits a radio (radar) signal.

On the other hand, there is no federal regulation banning laser radar jammers, nor can there ever be. After all, there is no way anyone can ban the emission of light, which is all that a laser radar jammer does!

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Neither could they ban radar absorbers (stealth) if you didn't mind funny shaped bits of carbon loaded conical shaped foam on the front of your bike. Play with radar jammers and you might knockout an aircraft automatic landing sytem, or give them a result over the limit when you weren't.

They'll find a way to ban anything if they can't get results. Don't you guys have cameras operated by two spaced trip wires across the road? 2 pics a measured distance apart and you're done if your rear plate shows up on the pics.



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Laser jamming isn't illegal, at this time. However, I'd bet that your local LEO might take a dim view of it if discovered.

Despite this, I have had a laser jammer on both my cars for several years now, and it DOES work. I've only gone through a laser trap a few times, but it sure gets your attention when you do! I check my speed, adjust if necessary, and then turn it off so they can get a reading.

I don't use a laser jammer on the bikes, YET, and I've only gone through a laser trap twice (Atlanta GA, and I-75 in FL) in the last three years, probably because I prefer to ride where there's not much traffic. However I DO use a radar detector on my bikes, never leave home without them!

The latest RADAR uses "POP", which is very short duration pulses that many radar detectors don't even detect. By the time you get an alert, it's too late to adjust your speed, unless your detector detects POP. I have, and have used, both the Valentine One and the Escort 8500K50. The Escort falses way too often when POP mode is turned on, so I keep it off and take my chances. I just got another Valentine to replace it, so the Escort is being retired.

I can't say enough good about the Valentine detector and his customer service. I've been using them for about three years now, and sent two of them in this winter to be upgraded to detect POP. They were both getting a bit nasty looking, having been on the bikes for thousands of miles, including some heavy rain (I take them off during heavy rain, but they seem to get a bit wet before I get that done) They came back looking like new, and work better than ever.

Of course, the best defense against a speeding ticket is to ALWAYS ride or drive at or below the speed limit, but the down side of that is you're likely to become the hood ornament on somebody's vehicle.
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re: active radar jammers

For the United States FCC (Federal Communications Commission) to consider an intentional radiator legal the field intensity (power) must meet FCC limits (Rules Part 15) AND the device must perform some function for the public good. Traffic radar jammers are not considered good for the public by the FCC.


The FCC considers the use of traffic radar jammers as malicious interference and strictly prohibited by the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, as well as by FCC rules. Anyone using a jammer risks such penalties as losing FCC licenses, paying a fine, or facing criminal prosecution (from FCC Public Notice -- FCC Regulates Radar Transmitters, but not Radar Detectors, DA 96-2040, 1996 DEC 9) .

this refers to active jammers that produce and/or transmit any signal.

there have been many tests performed on many brands and the results have unanimously demonstrated that there are NO existing passive jammers that work.
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Laser jammers are illegal in Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado and Washington DC. I'm sure that list will grow over time, but if you turn it off as soon as you've slowed down, the LEO would probably never know you had it.

http://www.radarbusters.com/landing/...california.asp
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...but if you turn it off as soon as you've slowed down, the LEO would probably never know you had it.
In that case you can just throw it away because it is obviously not working!
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You'd need to swap your FIAMMS or Stebels for a decent 'horn' and Gunn diode. KRS's have plenty of power available!

What do you do about the choppers?



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If they're the silent, black ones, you have to keep fresh batteries in your tin hat.



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