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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 6:05 pm Thread Starter
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Just started the oil change on '04 KGT.
I've done many an oil change in my life , but never on this machine.

When I loosened the last of the 3 oil filer cover plate screws the bike belched what amounts to nearly all the oil that was in the crankcase onto my garage floor.
I did not have the oil drain pan in place because I was only removing the cover not the filter.
Oil level in the glass was always good and there were never any warning lites regarding oil pressure.

Did I do something wrong?

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 6:12 pm
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Strangely enough, the same thing happened to me the first time that I changed the filter.
The filter sits wet in the oil of the crankcase and you should drain the oil from the sump through the plug first.

Otherwise it just dumps it all on the floor....

It's not a fault .. just daft design..
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Did I do something wrong?

DMilan
yup, ya didn't drain the oil with the drain plug first, and then ya didn't
have an oil pan under the filter housing.

From the sound of it though, ya got everything else right.

All you can do is shake your head and mutter under your
breath about German engineering. :wtf

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Strangely enough, the same thing happened to me the first time that I changed the filter.
The filter sits wet in the oil of the crankcase and you should drain the oil from the sump through the plug first.

Otherwise it just dumps it all on the floor....

It's not a fault .. just daft design..
OK / Thanks, but no... I'm daft

B-4 I go off to purchase another bag of OIL-DRY I'll publickly kick myself.

Of couse the oil must be drained from the crankcase. It always does.
In my little mind I was just preparing to be able to get at the filter first.
DDDDUUUHHHH.
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Of couse the oil must be drained from the crankcase. It always does.
In my little mind I was just preparing to be able to get at the filter first.
DDDDUUUHHHH.
Well, just so ya know, even draining the oil first doesn't get
all of the oil around the filter, you'll still have to put an oil
pan under the filter door when ya pop it off.

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Hello All

Just started the oil change on '04 KGT.
I've done many an oil change in my life , but never on this machine.

When I loosened the last of the 3 oil filer cover plate screws the bike belched what amounts to nearly all the oil that was in the crankcase onto my garage floor.
I did not have the oil drain pan in place because I was only removing the cover not the filter.
Oil level in the glass was always good and there were never any warning lites regarding oil pressure.DMilan
Been there, done that. Learned from it, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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Oil Change: Phase II (put the oil in) Suggestion

Regardless of the type of motorcycle I am changing the oil in, (based primarily on the high cost of good motorcycle oil) I always clean the drain pan till it's bone dry and place it back under the bike. When I start the engine to check oil pressure, and look for leaks....I've got a back up plan just in case the filter didn't seat tight, or the drain plug explodes, etc., I can catch the good oil, fix the problem, filter the really new oil and put it back in the crankcase. See, I'm on fixed income and $25-$45 of oil is important to my budget!!

Hey, it works for me.

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On most cars the oil filter is built inside the metal can, oil goes in or out down the center and back in/out from the sides.

On our bikes they needed as much sump capacity as they could squeeze in underneath, so they decided to have the filter can sitting in the sump oil. After you think you've drained the oil, that space around the can is still full of oil. That's part of the reason for discussions a while back on some aftermarket filters where the paint on the can lifts off. Normally it doesn't matter, but on our bikes the paint gets into the sump oil.

When you remove the cover to change a filter, the oil trapped in the void space around the can is what falls out. If it doesn't you have a big problem - like no oil!



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Been there, done that. Learned from it, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Thanks..
Misery loves company.

Looking back, although I have not yet finished cleaning the garage floor, I think I let the words "OIL FILTER COVER" in the service manual influence me a bit too much. If it were called the "GAPING HOLE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CRANKCASE PLUG" I think I would have got it.

It's just the oil filer cover right? Strange that it needs an O-ring. HMMMM. Oh well here goes...
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Well at least I learned one more thing from this thread...

The comment about the paint on the filter..

I will be sticking to genuine BMW filters.. never occured to me about the outside of the filter...

And the oily patch is still visible on my garage floor....
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