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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Oct 1st, 2007, 3:48 pm Thread Starter
 
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clockwise U turns

I can do a counterclockwise feet up u turns with no problems, but have real problems with the same manouver in a clockwise direction,the bike just wants to fall over. Is this just me or does anyone else out there have the same problem? Any techniques out there?
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Feet up!! Our instructors insisted that if the bike is moving, both feet on the pegs. I can turn the k on full lock, either direction. As a general rule if the bike wants to fall the answer is more throttle. Tricky slow turns require use of the footbrake and throttle together, mostly opposing each other. Dont get so good you finally disappear up yer own arse!! We will miss ya
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They can only do clockwise/feet up u turns south of the equator.

Truth is though, people seem to have a preferred direction that they're most comfortable with. The other direction seems to be a tad more difficult for them.

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They can only do clockwise/feet up u turns south of the equator.

Truth is though, people seem to have a preferred direction that they're most comfortable with. The other direction seems to be a tad more difficult for them.
And I hate that. It's like a chicken strip that's bigger on one side. That I have chicken strips at all just frustrates the goat snot out of me. Excuse me, I see a tree that needs beating with my head!

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I have a nice area outside my house which is big enough for me to do clockwise and counter clockwise and figure 8's in any direction both feet up

just dont freeeeeeeeeeze and use the throttle and back brake

My son can also stand on his pedals of his BMX bike stationary after waching me do it on my K1200rs...now that takes some bloody balance
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thanks for the advice, I binned the RS a couple of weeks ago on a clockwise slow turn, I think I may have lost my nerve a little,
Above walking pace I have no probs and for a big bike it can be surprisingly agile, I have to get more practice in.

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Interesting thread, taking an imaginary center line through both wheels:

The tranni is right of center
The swingarm and driveshaft are well right of center.
The rear drive is definitely very heavy and right of center.
The gas tank level drops to be heavier right of center.
The fuel pump, ECU and most of the electrics are right of center.
The rear disc and ABS ring is right of center
I don't think the muffler adds up to that lot, certainly not an aftermarket one.

Come to think of it, it's amazing how the bike keeps vertical at all and on clockwise turns too!

Must be why they expect us to haul the bike on and off the stands left side, so we don't notice the tendency to right tipover.

Can somebody test their bike on a clockwise turn and say what's the slowest speed it has to be moving to stay upright compared to a left turn? Email me the vid clips and I can workout the speeds Then I can design the 'stall' er.. tipover warning alarm.



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Interesting thread, taking an imaginary center line through both wheels:

The tranni is right of center
The swingarm and driveshaft are well right of center.
The rear drive is definitely very heavy and right of center.
The gas tank level drops to be heavier right of center.
The fuel pump, ECU and most of the electrics are right of center.
The rear disc and ABS ring is right of center
I don't think the muffler adds up to that lot, certainly not an aftermarket one.

Come to think of it, it's amazing how the bike keeps vertical at all and on clockwise turns too!

Must be why they expect us to haul the bike on and off the stands left side, so we don't notice the tendency to right tipover.

Can somebody test their bike on a clockwise turn and say what's the slowest speed it has to be moving to stay upright compared to a left turn? Email me the vid clips and I can workout the speeds Then I can design the 'stall' er.. tipover warning alarm.
I find the problem manifests itself when upon coming home with a huge gut full of beer, I put the bike stands on the concrete, attempt to stand it up but disappear over the other side with the bike falling on top of me. Which is the approved manner to avoid scratches
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That's normal, same thing happens to me.

Park the bike South of the equator and the scratches will even up a bit. Don't know what the beer's like down there!



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Don't know what the beer's like down there!
Heck of a lot colder, certainly...



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