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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 2005, 12:15 pm Thread Starter
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where's this oil coming from?

Oil is suppose to be INSIDE the engine right?

Has anyone experienced something like this? What's going on? I've loaded a rather large image so that you can zoom in to see the detail.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 2005, 12:42 pm
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I would be careful running the motor for too long with that amount of oil on the muffler/heatshield!

I'd start by pulling off plastic. It looks like engine oil and lots of it, so I'd suspect it's under pressure and I'd be looking hard at the oil cooler, hoses and couplings. Also watch the engine oil level.

When oil gets outside the engine in large quantities, there's something to fix quick!



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post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 2005, 1:15 pm
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valve cover gasket is my guess

pull belly pan , inspect, wash it down with Gunk, ride 15-20 , miles, inspect.

pay particular atention to the "half-moon" areas of valve cover.

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where's this oil coming from?

Valve cover...
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post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 2005, 4:58 pm
 
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Checking for leaks

Looks like a good leak that is getting wicked back from the front of the bike or the valve cover. The previous advise to pull the belly pan and wash down (While cold only)and then ride and reinspect is good advise. On the K . Start with the oil cooler lines and their fittings then go to the valve cover. If its the oil lines, check if you need an entire line or just new crush washers where it meets the engine. I had a line begin to leak on my 03 and had it replaced. If its just the crush washers . the new ones will be cheap and you will need a torque wrench to make sure you tighten them properly.

If its the valve cover. Pull the cover and inspect the seal . The half moon shapes will need a sealant to stay dry. If the seal is worn or overly brittle , replace it. Its cheap insurance against future leaks. Take your time, keep it spotlessly clean and use good sealants.

Good luck- send more pictures once the belly pan and/or side panel is off

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Oil is suppose to be INSIDE the engine right?

Has anyone experienced something like this? What's going on? I've loaded a rather large image so that you can zoom in to see the detail.

Thanks,
-Skids
Last week (11-12-05) noted problem with clutch lack of grab on start from 1st gear. Drove in to dealership and saw similar mess under cowling down front and rear of motor. Time for major tear-down to get to root cause.
They report approx. 5% of RS/GT have this issue. Possibly due to poor machining of parts (grooves evident of rough casting of pieces, not fitting together as glass-smooth surfaces). Don't know they have not begun tear-down yet, am looking forward to seeing parts when they break it down.
Warranty work for the dealership, service says they can't tell extent until full inspection. I am going to have steel-braided lines installed, and hopefully get same for clutch line if I can find manufacturer with appropriate fittings for clutch line (was told that the clutch fitting will not be out until next year). Speigler I suppose.
With mileage approaching the 24k, I thought I might as well get that done now too since they will be pulling off enough that it makes sense to do it early.
Anyone find any "gotcha's" to watch out for after repair of oil leak and clutch slippage?

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Great suggestions

I just put it away for the winter in my sister's garage, so this be a spring time activity. I hope it's nothing serious.

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Thumbs down Oil Leak....

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Valve cover...
You definately have a problem. As mentioned before, I wouldn't ride it until figured out. How many miles on it??. Cleaning and riding (in my opinion) NOT GOOD. You know you have problem, what happens if you have major oil blow-out at speed or under load?
Not F------ good.
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I couldn't see the picture - too dark for me - How much oil were you losing Skids?

K bikes seem to have a lot of the weeping head gasket syndrome - mine has it - and a friend-of-mine's bike has it - but I figure I'll just watch the oil level, like the owner's manual suggests - and fix it when I need to check valve clearences.
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........... Cleaning and riding (in my opinion) NOT GOOD. You know you have problem, what happens if you have major oil blow-out at speed or under load?
Not F------ good.

Well I am 'old school' and have 100% confidence in both my mechanical and riding ability.

The idea of having someone else troubleshoot/correct the problem is 'foreign' to me personally.

Cleaning and riding would certainly be less risky than the ride(s) that led up to discovering the oil leak in the first place?

Skids, just be careful with whatever course of action you take. I hope you cleaned that oily mess up before you put it in sis's garage!

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