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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Sep 3rd, 2010, 12:51 am Thread Starter
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Best Year K1200RS for $4500 ?

Sold my 1988 K75S before my year in Asia, now I am back with $4500 in hand. Interested in getting a K1200RS. Looks like for about $4500 you can find a clean 1999-2002 K1200RS.

Is it worth spending a little more for the 2002+?
Any suggestions on model years to avoid?
Things to look for?
I assume same as K75S, splines, cooling fan, gear box syncros?
Any other issues /concerns?

Thanks!

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Sep 3rd, 2010, 6:58 am
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The only significant differences b/t an '00 and an '02 is the fairing. Oh, and I believe the '02's
came ith factory cruise control. The engine, frame, suspension etc. are the same.

The only K12RS' that had any issues with fans were the very early '98s, and those were fixed immediately by BMW under the warranty. Splines are different from earlier K's and are NOT an issue.

It mostly comes down to which look you prefer, the sleek early K12RS from '98 to '00
or the much porkier looking later RS

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Lots of changes between 01 and 02, importantly, the introduction of linked, power assisted brakes. Some love 'em, some hate 'em, I wouldn't be without 'em. Next generation ABS is introduced on this model also (so I believe-someone shoot me down if I'm wrong ) Newer styling, and a smaller screen complete the visual package. Cruise is an option in many places, and is never guaranteed on this model. Definitely worth having though IMHO. Also wider rear wheel at 5.5 inches, and upgraded rear shock, but again, these were options in some states/countries, and standard in places like Aussie. No doubt there will be more differences offered....

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Lots of changes between 01 and 02, importantly, the introduction of linked, power assisted brakes. Some love 'em, some hate 'em, I wouldn't be without 'em. Next generation ABS is introduced on this model also (so I believe-someone shoot me down if I'm wrong ) Newer styling, and a smaller screen complete the visual package. Cruise is an option in many places, and is never guaranteed on this model. Definitely worth having though IMHO. Also wider rear wheel at 5.5 inches, and upgraded rear shock, but again, these were options in some states/countries, and standard in places like Aussie. No doubt there will be more differences offered....
The reverse of what kiwi said.......the ABS system that's not linked and not servo controlled is by far more desirable than the complex, hard to maintain, extremely problematic system...........just look at the procedure to do the annual brake fluid flush.....and I've had multiple riding pals who's servo unit went down.....it's expensive to replace, not nearly as durable as the non-servo version. Styling is subjective, I'll take the earlier style....rear wheel upgrade to the 5.5 inch was common here......with the heavier shock...Cruise is also subjective, will you use the electronic version? I much prefer my Throttlemeister system.......

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I am kinda partial to the ealier versions as well, like the Infidel, for mainly the same reasons. I have had the standard (and several) main seal replacements. The last I did myself at 96,000 miles and replaced my clutch. Took time and some muscle help, but otherwise nothing special. I have the 170 rear tire and am totally happy with it. The wider 185 rubber looks more modern nowadays, but serves only to aid turn in response a little. I have a tall aeroflow screen on mine now, that comes off easily - though since I picked up the 1300S, the RS has become more my two-up quasi-GT. Any bike for $4500 will likely need new or rebuilt shocks anyway, so figure that in. Between the elapsed time and any mileage over 25,000, the stockers will be hosed. Cruise does me no good due to my riding, rarely on the freeway so it is a non issue for me. My abs clutch slaves failed at about 70,000 as I recall, well out of warranty, but I found a used unit for about $450 vs $1500 new and had the work done along with one of the warranteed seal jobs. For the mileage I have and as hard as I ride it, I think it has held up quite well and is still going strong.

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Almost like an oil or tire thread ...
I have a 2003 with the "whizzy" brakes. Noisy suckers. Learning to do a complete brake flush by yourself is best done with someone that knows how. Once you know what you're doing, it's 4 hours work. Complicated, yes. Replacement of the ABS module isn't cheap.

You will come to a stop in a shorter distance than any other bike in that weight range, though.

The newer GT with the slant 4 motor takes further distance to come to a stop, with the newer brakes and a few pounds trimmed off. With a little bit more effort.

Kind of wish they'd kept the servo brakes for the new GT, but meh ...



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I like my linked servos too.......but you have to remember NOT TO use the rear brake in an emergency stop, doing so overrides the linked system thus applying more braking to the rear than required. The bike will then react in ways you won't like......! Just a warning because when you ride with regular brakes for years, them old habits are hard to break....!

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Thanks all! If I am understanding it comes down to:
-Styling the 98-2001 fairing vs the 2002 - fairing
-98-2001 non linked brakes/ABS vs the 2002 linked brakes / ABS
-1998 had a fan issue fixed under warranty
-Budget for rebuilt or new shocks
-2002 had factory cruise control
-2002 5.5" rear wheel
-You can fit rear 5.5" /185 tire on 98-2001

So if I got it all, it comes down to 98-2001 style and simpler non linked brakes / ABS. Most of my riding is Yosemite and Bay Area, so cruise control of little value. Although I have ridden other bikes with linked ABS and liked the security, sounds like the added complexity can be a hassle. I like the dolphin blue and graphite colors which I believe are available for all model years.

Thanks for the help!
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Thanks all! If I am understanding it comes down to:
-Styling the 98-2001 fairing vs the 2002 - fairing
-98-2001 non linked brakes/ABS vs the 2002 linked brakes / ABS
-1998 had a fan issue fixed under warranty
-Budget for rebuilt or new shocks
-2002 had factory cruise control
-2002 5.5" rear wheel
-You can fit rear 5.5" /185 tire on 98-2001

So if I got it all, it comes down to 98-2001 style and simpler non linked brakes / ABS. Most of my riding is Yosemite and Bay Area, so cruise control of little value. Although I have ridden other bikes with linked ABS and liked the security, sounds like the added complexity can be a hassle. I like the dolphin blue and graphite colors which I believe are available for all model years.

Thanks for the help!
It pains me to tell you this........but I just stumbled upon a 99 with 30k in those colors, serviced and farkled......locally......fly in.....ride home......SLC, Utah......for your $4500....what is the world coming to............that's a killer deal in my book......give me a PM.....

edit: looks like this......

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Get a early one that is easiest to maintian. Keep it SImple Stupid is in play hear ,, you are talking about $$$$$$$$ aren't you ,,, a limited amount. (read easy to fix ,repair) MIne is the 2000 MODLE and still runs great , no proplems at all. ( it does run exellent) very fast also, my 3 cents on that... joe ( oh RED ones go faster)
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