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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Sep 21st, 2010, 2:06 pm Thread Starter
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Changing Brake Lines?

Hi Fellas,04 K1200GT.I just had a motorcycle shop change the stock brake lines to Spieglers.I suspect the non BMW shop is going to throw the book at me.How long should it take for a qualified non BMW mechanic to change the 6 lines and bleed?

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If you need to bleed ABS unit (and I suspect you do when changing lines), it is a rather involved process (11 bleed points total with the wheel circuits) and requires some weird special wrench (can be home made though). One definitely needs a manual (or instructions below) to do it.

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Yeah, they better know what their doing when it comes to bleeding with the ABS.

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brake lines and flush

How could you not bleed the brakes if you were changing the lines.

I have a set of Spiegler lines ready to go on. I was quoted about 2 hours for the lines and the flush has always been $245. CDN.

So I'm looking at $500.+ with tax.

Will be a definite improvement for an older bike.
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Hi guys apart from the cost(+$700!!!),there are no flashing lights and all appears to be normal,EXCEPT that the rear brake pedal has waaaaayyy too much play .Is it just a matter of adjusting the rod?Or is it a different issue?
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Hi guys apart from the cost(+$700!!!),there are no flashing lights and all appears to be normal,EXCEPT that the rear brake pedal has waaaaayyy too much play .Is it just a matter of adjusting the rod?Or is it a different issue?
Maybe....there has to be some play there. Do you have the Clymer Manual? If not I'll scan the page and send it to you.

Was that $700.00 plus the price of the lines.....?

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rear brake - adj. blow-by clearance

If this adjustment doesn't take out the play, then your dealer screwed up the brake bleed job! (which is my first thought!)
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File Type: pdf '01-'04 BMW K1200RS adj. blow-by clearance .pdf (218.5 KB, 28 views)

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Maybe....there has to be some play there. Do you have the Clymer Manual? If not I'll scan the page and send it to you.

Was that $700.00 plus the price of the lines.....?

I know,me too,yes indeedy.Trying to give my local non BMW shop some business.
I don't have the Clymer,I do have the BMW cd which is silent as to pedal adjustment,thanks,if you would.

It's either me,ham fist,or the local guy,as you see,or a trip to Vancouver which mostly means leaving the bike there and coming back for it a week or more later,lots of costly travel.

I can do an oil change but I don't have the sophistication or the tools for much more advanced servie.
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If this adjustment doesn't take out the play, then your dealer screwed up the brake bleed job! (which is my first thought!)

Thanks for the visuals,Bruce.The local shop took pains to tell me the pedal adjustment "might" be excessive,but that it was just a matter of turning a bolt on the rod. Which I looked at. Clearly it is not that simple.I didn't really want to take it back OR peel back the boot covering the piston,so there remains lots of pedal free play.It works,but it is not tight like it used to be!
Is the pdf from the Clymer manual?

Thanks for the help,guys,I love this bike and I don't like it to function below perfect!
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Darn that bible(Clymer) is hard to scan......! Darn the copyrights, it is all for a good cause....if they come after me you may have to defend me!

But you know I got mine right where it is supposed to be and without even reading any instructions. Looks like your mechanic charged you a couple hundred bucks in labor just to read the bleeding instructions, now that I can understand.......maybe!

Anyway, I think you should print all that,Clymer and BMW from Brucecha. I'll also send it to you as an attachment to E-mail, easier to print, and take it to them, that's about a 5-10 minutes job, maybe a little longer depending on their reading comprehension.....!

If all else fails, I am driving your way on the first of november....well maybe depending on how wet you are on the coast. Wouldn't be the first time I'd go look at a bike with some problems.....!




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