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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2010, 6:50 pm Thread Starter
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clutchless shifting

Can someone tell my how to shift without the clutch. I not sure how to do this.
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First you make sure you have about $5000 in your bank account. Then you just drop the revs back and kick it into gear. I read in some oil company advice page that using the clutch is not necessary. Believed it until I spoke to an experienced club member who had just bought a new gearbox.



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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2010, 10:13 pm
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My bike came with a clutch and a rear brake, and I use them both.
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I always use the clutch but would like to know how it done.
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Just drop the revs back and shift. Many old timers drive trucks and coaches without using the clutch. Wife picked me up at the airport and told me the car was broken down outside, no clutch. No probs. Put it in first gear, crank it over and away we go. Just drop the revs back to change. With a crash gearbox like an old truck you have to rev the motor as you pass through neutral position, known as a double shuffle. With a synchro box you do not double clutch, just take your right foot of the go pedal. I have been doing it on bikes for a long time, until an experienced rider of a GS had to replace his gearbox.
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no clutch shift ( up only )

One starts off in 1st with clutch , slightly pre - load the shfiter as you slightly take off any load you have in that gear ,, bam you are in 2nd ,, let off again ,,, bam third ,, ect I hardly ever use my clutch on the k1200rs ,, only down shifting ,, evrn under a load one can hit the next gear if one pre-loades the shifter befor you make your move ,,, ( P S this proceedure is not recomended fort those that ,, flush that shit out of the clutch space drilled holes and a brake fluid cleener doouuuush you knoww? ) joesflashdog

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I have done it for 15+ years on every bike I have owned. 0 problems what-so-ever..... and I do ride rather hard. But they were also all Jap bikes. I stopped doing it when I bought my 06 K12R. I have to say that my tranny is not up to snuff for clutchless shifting. They just aren't smooth enough. Those " CLUNK's " between 1-2-3, kinda scare me . I even cringe reving high in first and shifting into 2nd.... The Japs just have the corner on bullet proof transmissions. We got power, they got shift.
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I have done a few clutchless shifts with my bike, and all my other BMWs also....but I'll try anything! This K1200RS does it very smoothly if you don't try to bang it in there and get the revs just right. However I have seen the inside of that tranny and....it is made in Poland!!!!!

The parts also look very expensive and.....the shift drum or shift forks easy to break if you force anything. So......not too much clutchless shifting for me and certainly not in a Bang Bang kind of way.......!

But since Joe brought that other thread up.....just think as to what will happen if your clutch slips as you are trying to shift without it. Just read Pap's post and reflect a bit on synchronising, then you may want to avoid it for a while.

Anyone that has ever driven those large International Trucks from the 60's or 70's where you had to "double clutch" constantly does not mind using that smooth BMW clutch.

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Shifting

I up-shift only all the time, from third thru sixth. It's down shifting you don't want to do. Just back off the throttle all the way and shift when your back all the way down, be quick about it. The gears will go right in, they are not made of glass. Just perform this in the higher gears and not in anger when you're snake eyed and bustin' the curves. To practice this, just give thee clutch lever a slight squeeze, like 1/16th of an inch. My God it's a BMW........not a Yugo.

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