Oil Capacity/Oil Change - K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By H96669
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 2019, 8:30 am Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 94
Garage
Question Oil Capacity/Oil Change

My '02 RS specs say it takes 4 quarts of oil when changing the oil and the filter.

In reality, it's never taken more than 3.5 quarts to bring the oil level halfway up the sight glass.

As an aside, I fill until the level is near the top of the red ring in the sight glass. When running on the center stand, this drops the level to the halfway mark.

Anyway, I'm thinking the 4 quarts is with a virgin crankcase and once oil has been used, there is enough residual to account for the last 0.5 quarts.

Or, could be, that the specs are incorrect.

Anyone else unable to put in 4 quarts????

Wildbears is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 2019, 9:54 am
Veteran
 
H96669's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Burton, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,621
3.5 Liters is the spec. That's 3.698 us liquid quarts.Is that from Clymer the 4 quarts? Some of their conversions are off.

But yes there is a fair amount of oil left inside the engine.Oil pump/oil channels etc,are still oiled up hopefully. Lots at the bottom of the sump and inside the oil cooler.Run bike until the oil cooler lines are hot which means the oil cooler thermostat is open. You may get a few more ounces of dirty oil out that way.


And stick your fingers into the sump when the oil filter is out? A few more ounces can be dragged out.
Wildbears likes this.

Benelli 50cc at 14
Yamaha RD 200 at 16
Yamaha RD 350 at 17
Honda CB 750 F at 18
Honda V45 Sabre at 24
BMW K100RS at 27
BMW R100GS at 34
BMW K1200RS at 53
H96669 is online now  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 2019, 10:51 am Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 94
Garage
Good point.

BTW, the 3.5 L is without changing the oil filter.

I always change my filter, so with that the BMW manual lists 3.7 L (equal to 3.9 quarts).

ALSO, I have an old red plastic gas can with an angled nozzle that can be rotated.

Cleaned it out and will use it in the future to replace the oil.

It has a 1 gallon mark which will be used as a "fill-to" indicator.

The spout is not flexible so some oil remains in the can but not enough to prevent filling beyond the top of the sight glass.

So most of the replacement oil will be "glugged-in" and towards the end the sight glass will be carefully watched.

Wildbears is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 2019, 11:38 am
Veteran
 
H96669's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Burton, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,621
Strange your manual disagrees with the maintenance instructions booklet that came with my 03 bike? Booklet states "if filter is renewed 3.50L".


Hang on....Clymer states 3.75L for 1998-2000 and 3.5L for 2001-on.


There are two versions of the BMW service manual. I have the latest in my shop computer,that's the one with the iABS stuff in it so applies to 2001(eurospecs))2002(us) and up. I'll check later.

Benelli 50cc at 14
Yamaha RD 200 at 16
Yamaha RD 350 at 17
Honda CB 750 F at 18
Honda V45 Sabre at 24
BMW K100RS at 27
BMW R100GS at 34
BMW K1200RS at 53
H96669 is online now  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Veteran
 
H96669's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Burton, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,621
BMW service manual, part number 01 790 137 531

Printed in Germany 03/01

Service Data as of model/year 01 integral ABS:

Engine oil capacity with oil filter change :3.5L


Benelli 50cc at 14
Yamaha RD 200 at 16
Yamaha RD 350 at 17
Honda CB 750 F at 18
Honda V45 Sabre at 24
BMW K100RS at 27
BMW R100GS at 34
BMW K1200RS at 53
H96669 is online now  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 2019, 3:11 pm Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 94
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by H96669 View Post
Clymer states 3.75L for 1998-2000 and 3.5L for 2001-on.
Mystery Solved!!!



I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.
Wildbears is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 2019, 4:46 pm
Veteran
 
H96669's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Burton, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 1,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbears View Post
Mystery Solved!!!



I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.

Bullseye is good. My bike is topped almost to the brim right now as I am about to hit the road and it does use a little oil so that will delay the top up. Mind you it does smoke a little on start up if left overnight on sidestand when that full.No biggie.


As per Clymer, difference between MIN and MAX marks is 0.5L.


I never measure my oil. 5-6 oil changes a year. Refill to the top of the sight glass.Start bike and watch oil pressure gauge go up in 3 secs max.Filter is then full.....look at the sight glass? Should be bullseye or very close.

Benelli 50cc at 14
Yamaha RD 200 at 16
Yamaha RD 350 at 17
Honda CB 750 F at 18
Honda V45 Sabre at 24
BMW K100RS at 27
BMW R100GS at 34
BMW K1200RS at 53
H96669 is online now  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2019, 11:02 am Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 94
Garage
Red face Correction!

Clymer lists 3.5 L and 3.7 quarts for halfway into the sight glass with a filter change.

In fact, in my '02 RS, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass with a filter change.

3.7 quarts brings it to the top of the red ring in the sight glass.

THUS, there is still residual oil (not drained) even with overnight draining.

BTW, I use Mobil 5 W 30 synthetic oil.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbears View Post
Mystery Solved!!!



I have the BMW manual for the 98 version (my previous bike), but now own an '02!

So, as reported, 3.5 quarts brings it halfway into the sight glass, when the filter is also changed.
Wildbears is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome