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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 2007, 8:36 pm Thread Starter
 
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OK, yes this is a new thread on headlights .....I am sure there have been several. I want to understand, on the K12RS the factory headlight is probably minimal at best and I plan to install 55 Watt PIAA driving lights on my K12RS.

So if driving at night is not the normal MO (modis opperendis) of my riding....then do I really need the HID headlight modification kit?

If I do need the kit, where is the best place to purchase it and how difficult is it to install?

Would you need a separate kit for the high beam?


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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old Jan 25th, 2007, 12:06 am
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I have Piaa's and HID high and low beams. Had I done the HID's first I would have saved the Piaa funds for other toys.

If you ride at night and like to boogie along, then HID's, especially the High beam, are the best "bang for the buck".

PS, the "Group Buy" for HID is still going on for this site, 'til the end of the month. At $87 delivered, go for it!

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I'm with Bill. If you think the headlight is not bright enough as is and you want to spend money to make things brighter, then HID is the way to go. I just bought a new '07 GT with the Xenon headlight, and the difference between it and the headlight on my traded-in '03 RS is..... I have to say it.... like night and day.
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My HID's are definitely for daylight riding (most of what I do). I deliberately went for the bluer 6000K and I stand out on the road in bright sun and overcast daylight. That's what makes bikes with HID safer to be seen and why I forecast manufactureres must move towards HID on new bikes.

Once you add the higher color temp brighter HID, anything tungsten will get washed away. The only lighting addons after HIDs (if you really need it) are PIAA HID the same temperature as your conversion.

I'm waiting for some cheapies to come along from Korea or China. Another 20 watts each side would be plenty.



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I have an HID low beam. My only regret is not going with both high and low beam HID. IMO you can't beat HID for night driving and daytime visibility.

Anyone know how how difficult it is to add the high beam HID once the low beam is installed? Any delay when switching from low to high?
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The only problem I see with adding a hi-beam HID is every time you dip it for on-coming traffic or coming up on a vehicle there is a start-up delay to get to full brilliance(just like your HID lo-beam).

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The only problem I see with adding a hi-beam HID is every time you dip it for on-coming traffic or coming up on a vehicle there is a start-up delay to get to full brilliance(just like your HID lo-beam).
My Gosh! HID for high beam is way overkill. I ride at night quite a bit and HID on low beam is plenty! And you don't have to worry about oncoming traffic.
If night riding is infrequent, I would go with the Silverstars for both low and high beams.

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OK, yes this is a new thread on headlights .....I am sure there have been several. I want to understand, on the K12RS the factory headlight is probably minimal at best and I plan to install 55 Watt PIAA driving lights on my K12RS.

So if driving at night is not the normal MO (modis opperendis) of my riding....then do I really need the HID headlight modification kit?

If I do need the kit, where is the best place to purchase it and how difficult is it to install?

Would you need a separate kit for the high beam?


Curious minds want to know.



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My Gosh! HID for high beam is way overkill. I ride at night quite a bit and HID on low beam is plenty! And you don't have to worry about oncoming traffic.
If night riding is infrequent, I would go with the Silverstars for both low and high beams.

Do you get animals on your local roads? We get deer, you probably have the bigger Elk/moose variety. On lonely night drives with not much oncoming, I'd rather have that bit extra extended range and a little extra time. They always seem to be around when you're the only one on the road. But yes, most of the time low beam HID's do the job. There's a slight sense of false security in that the brighter whiter Hids give higher contrast and a sharp cut off at the edges . The pattern produced by the stock refelector on low beam is 'V' shaped so I think there are still times when filling in the centre with the main is needed. I never saw much point in keeping the stock main as tungsten because your eyes adapt to the high near brightness and you don't see much benefit when switching to main.



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My Gosh! HID for high beam is way overkill. I ride at night quite a bit and HID on low beam is plenty! And you don't have to worry about oncoming traffic.
If night riding is infrequent, I would go with the Silverstars for both low and high beams.
Howdy Milkman (clever handle for your name )

You know, one can never have enough horsepower, strong enough brakes or too much light

My HID Low beams throw a pattern out to around 75' due to the down angle of the Low beam. That distance is not very far, nor really adequate IMO, at highway speeds. My High beam is lighting up the road a good 300' and reflecting off of objects (Racoon eyes, Stop signs, etc.) at 1000' or so. Now highway speeds are reasonable with that much light

I've had the HID high beam, along with the low beam, on the LT for 3 years now, riding a lot of miles at night. I use the High beam as often as it is clear to do so. I have never had on oncoming car or truck "flash" me to indicate they were bothered by it. I think part of the other vehicles lack of "flashing" is that I have the HID's on and throwing a ton of light as they get within range, then, as they can see the volume of light, I turn off the High beam and they know that I've shut down the High beam


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