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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old May 10th, 2007, 9:17 pm Thread Starter
 
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Placement of Laminar Lip

Has anyone experamented with the placement of the Laminar Lip on a stock 2003 or there abouts K1200GT. I have one that is mounted 1 inch higher than the top of the stock screen. I am wondering if placeing it lower or higher would give me more airflow protection. I am 5 11 with barbacks and with the screen in its highest possition the wind hits the top of my helmet. I would prefer the blast to go over my helmet.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old May 11th, 2007, 3:04 am
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The higher you go the more likely it is to come off unless you use permanent nut/bolt fixing. I used some plastic mini clamps to experiment with height before fixing the 3M grippers. I went with just over 1" above the oem comfort screen. Any more, and I think it would need permanent fixings.

I found the lip worked well at lower speeds and I use it now mainly for Winter riding as it pushes the rain and cold air up. I still think lower screen and plugs works best with most helmets in Summer.



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Any chance you could post a pic? I'm going rapidly deaf with the jet engine noise from mine. The winds of the last few days in London have really made my mind up to get a lip.

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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old May 11th, 2007, 3:28 pm
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Any chance you could post a pic? I'm going rapidly deaf with the jet engine noise from mine. The winds of the last few days in London have really made my mind up to get a lip.
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I recommend using sleeve bolts instead of the methods supplied with the Lip. It is not permanent...on or off in seconds....and looks good. Tricky part is drilling the windshield...see attachment.
As far as placement, place a couple rubber grommets under each side and tape it to your windshield.....take a ride.....adjust.....take a ride, etc.
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Thanks for the replies. Any tips on drilling the holes to permanently mount ?. Its interesting when people in the group say things like higher speed. Here in Australia and the state of Victoria specificaly the max speed is 110klm/h or about 65MPH, anything 3 klm over the limit and the cops will get you or you will have your photo taken then get a please pay in the mail. Therefore the lip only has to service about 110klm winds.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old May 15th, 2007, 12:18 am
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From the horse's mouth (as they say !)

This is what I received from a source very close to Laminar Lip :

"At first, the rider may need to change his paradigm of not attempting to
duck the wind completely, instead, going for smoother air. In this case,
he merely needs to angle his shield back as the LIP seems to be in
perfect placement for his height. But personal preference may get in the
way and he may truly want to attempt to have the air go over his helmet.
At this point, he would still need to angle back the shield in order to
get more flow between the shield and LIP and thusly create a more
pronounced stream of air exiting from the gap (what I like to call the
virtual shield, a windshield extension made of air), he would then need
to raise the LIP's position on the shield to dial out any air still
hitting the helmet.

There is one trick that I sometimes tell people in order to help find
the best placement prior to attaching the LIP onto the shield (without
burning through any Dual Locks) and can be done when the LIP is first
taken out of it's bag:

Without peeling the adhesive backing paper of the Dual Locks, place the
LIP onto the shield starting with about 1 inch past the top of the
shield and duct tape the LIP onto the shield. (ewww..my lawyers are
cringing at me as I say that. So, please make certain that you are using
DOT approved duct tape rated for high speeds and carries the "Laminar
Litigation-Free" certification on it's packaging :P ) Don't obstuct the
gap with the tape, and make certain the tape isn't abrasive so you don't
scratch up the shield and LIP. Take a test ride. If you ride two-up,
take her along for her feedback as well (or HIS feedback, depending on
your preference, you never know these days) Raise or lower the LIP until
it works well, then take a temporary marker and draw circles on the
inside of your shield to indicate the position of the Dual Locks. Remove
the tape, make certain the front of the shield is clean of any film, wax
or debris, peel the adhesive backing paper from the Dual Locks and stick
it on your shield using the drawn marks as guides for placement. Voila!"

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One warning about temporary placement of the lip - if the lip moves just a little it WILL scratch the stock windscreen. The adhesive cover on the 3m locks is abrasive on the edge and left some pretty patterns on the screen.

I've got my lip mounted so the middle of the top of the arc is about 1/2" to 1" above the stock lip. I'm 6'1" and get fairly clean air with the most threshold around my chin with the screen down, and at the top of my forehead with the screen up. As stated in the prior post, the important piece isn't so much escaping the wind but having non-turbulent, clean wind.

Just for grins, I attached the lip on the upper 3m lock (only 1 locked on each side) which put the lip up about 2-3" above the stock screen. It did push the wind higher, but I felt a little more turulence. besides, it looked really cludgy (bad). And, with only 1 connector on each side, I was at 85MPH most of the way with no flying lip.
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I found those little velcro dots to be worthless, so i went to Radio Shack and bought some of that superlock velcro. The nice thing is the strips make placement kind of adjustable.

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