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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 2008, 6:14 pm Thread Starter
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Thoughts after a few miles on my '08 GT

Nice Tranny.... NOT
I've found that if I "short shift" I can relieve most of the unnerving TWHACK that comes along as standard equipment. Good work BMW. Thanks. If I shift short, at low road speed, things are much better. Oh yeah, don't forget to preload... 1st to second at prox 10-15mph, 2nd to 3rd @15-20. I'd rather focus my attention on watching traffic, road conditions, cell phone fanatics, and such. Dissapointing.

ESA, my .02.
Comfort = Normal
Normal = sorta harsh
Sport = never will use it
Echos of this months MC Consumer News' review of ESA on the GS
For me, the setting are all one level too firm.
My RT (NON ESA), rides more comfortably with the standard rear shock damping set just below mid range.

However, with my Aeroflow in place (nice work Paige, thanks), ESA set to Comfort, and at speeds above 65 mph it all begins to make sense. To quote another magazine review I've read, "welcome to the first class cabin"

Thing is, in Ohio, maximum legal speed is 65 mph.

Then there's the slipping squeely clutch.

Nice tranny. Not..
errrrr
Needed to vent. Flame on

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 2008, 6:51 pm
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Sorry you are not totally thrilled with your new and expensive bike. I'm not sure what you mean by "short shift". On my 07 KS, if I only pull back the clutch lever about 1/2 inch, the bike shifts very good - not great like a Duc, but still very good.

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Sorry you are not totally thrilled with your new and expensive bike. I'm not sure what you mean by "short shift". On my 07 KS, if I only pull back the clutch lever about 1/2 inch, the bike shifts very good - not great like a Duc, but still very good.
Yeah, not totally thrilled.

Anyway.. by short shift, I meant to imply, to shift up at very low road speed. Shifting as if it's an economy run. Going to the next gear a soon as possible, without lugging the engine. I have found that the 1-2 and 2-3 shift are usually accomplised without the unnerving THWACK. So far, this works best for me. It should not have to be this demanding.

I have tried many of the other methods mentioned on this and other forums.

As you suggest, the clutch engagement is very close to the end of lever travel. A fact mentioned by at least a few of the magazine reviews of the new version GT. That technique, at least with me at the controls, just doesn't get it done.

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post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 2008, 8:30 pm
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I'll bite.

Here's an idea:

Sell the piece of shit and go on a never-ending crusade looking for perfection



Does that kind of think get you kicked off?
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post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 2008, 9:50 pm
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If this bike was perfect for everyone it would be a very funny looking machine.

You are right, the gearbox clunk is way too harsh and shouldnt need special riding skills but it does. One tip i found extremely helpfull was to make sure that youre shift lever was adjusted to create the minimum gap possible required between your boot and underlever so that preloading is achieved with minimal effort.
You dont need to short shift and in fact ive found the opposite. If you let it wind out gently into 3-4000 rev range, slight preload and semi clutch it becomes one of the smoothest changes around.
This bike is a sport tourer leaning towards sport, your RT isnt/wasnt. The steering on this bike is a Fu#%ing masterpiece that is enhanced by the suspension. Its willingness to turn in is arguably second to none in the market today and if you get fully loaded and 2 up and attempt a highway speed sweeper you will notice if in "comfort" mode that it hesitates to turn for a second while the suspension finds itself and then you get your line. This is telling you that another notch softer and it would be unpleasant to dangerous.
This bike isnt for everyone and I am certainly critical of its well documented reliability failings but every time I get a chance to get this bike into some open country it exilerates me.
To use a local saying"this bike would put a horn on a jellyfish".
Give it some time, enjoy the ride and if at the end of the day you dont like it try something else. Thats the fun of the journey.

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Dadicool59. . . .You're awsome
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Sport, touring, sport-touring. It's still a BMW, not a Cadillac. It's a driving machine (ultimate driving machine isn't it?) so while the suspension may feel too soft, it's a BMW, it's what they do. They engineered a machine, not an armchair.

Biggest problem I have when shifting (still new, only 600 miles on my '08) is matching revs. If I wind up 1st or 2nd I almost always throw myself over the handle bars because I had the revs way too low - let the clutch out and there I goooooooo.

Still learning, love the bike, gotta master the MYRP and I'll be all set.
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A slight fan of the clutch does it. No short shifting here. Sometimes I use the rev limiter to let me know it's time to pop another gear.

Rock and roll will never die, get some in your helmet.

I rode Harley for 28 years and will never go back. I can't understand the folks coming off of Harley complaining about thunking gear boxes.

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post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 2008, 10:54 pm
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Wow, it's amazing how two people can ride the same bike and have polar opposite views.
Hey Potato, PoTAtoe...

The transmission on my 08 GT is precise and smooth. Having ridden Japanese, & American bikes, I'm new to the BMW and comparatively speaking, the 1200 GT's tranny is a work of art.

If your disappointed with the transmission on the GT, be very careful on what else you choose to drive...it can get a lot worse.

Be Safe
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I agree with Boat-dude and have only owned hondas in the past they fill like a minibike compared to my 08 GT 1700miles on it purrs like a mountain lion.

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