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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Jul 29th, 2008, 8:01 pm Thread Starter
 
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any input on music reproducing quality of J&M elite series (wired) headphones?
have, ready to install, Baehr Ultima XL amp/preamp, garmin zumo 550 GPS with XM, and
an 8GB iPOD nano, running via wired headset (J&M Elite series). My question is this--
I have 2 pair of Sennheiser PX-200 home headsets that I could splice into (I hope--
the J&M helmet wiring has proprietary connectors that I would have to work around) the
remainder of the J&M wiring. I made a dry run with the Sennheisers inside my helmet
wired to an iPOD with excellent music reproduction (not quite enough volume, but the Baehr
will take care of that). It would be easier to connect the stock J&M headphones. Tech sup-
port at J&M is trying to convince me that their headphones would have BETTER music
reproduction (marketing hype?) because they are "engineered for this application"

Anyone have input/experience with the J&M headphones, particularly vs. good, home quality
haedphones-- the J&M headphones are about $90 a set vs. $45 a set for the Sennheisers.
Earplugs are not an option for me.

Much obliged
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I run the zomo with 4 gig card and an other 8 gigs on the side , everything is connected to the autocomm ,I was getting good loop, hooked one of those pie filters all noise gone, to finish it off connected one of those new model boostaroo , they really make a difference, the stereo really gets separated nicely, and you get some type of 3d sound, a nice add on for around $40 At home I listen a set of Klipsh laScallas runnig them with a tube amp, up to today I can't see getting that kind of sound from any head set , even if it there good, not the same, besides running against the wind I don't expect home Quality, the set up I got works really nicely that's my 2 cents
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With the acoustics of a helmet and the wind, I have found that the positioning of the speakers in the helmet so they are directly opposite your ear holes is more important than the quality of the speakers themselves. I use the Baehr supplied speakers with my Baehr Verso XL in a Shoei X11 helmet. The only better sound I have gotten is with a pair of in ear custom molded earplug speakers that I had made at the CCR Rally in Mo. last year. They are awesome, but I don't really llke using them unless I am looking at a multi-hour ride to make it worth putting in the plugs as they fit real tight. With them in, I can (and must) turn down the volume of all audio sources or risk deafness.

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If you truly want good quality sound than you have to go with either in ear / noise canceling / blocking or custom molded in ear phones. It's just basic physics unless you're going to be sitting behind a barn door. I've done both in helmet and in ear. There is no comparison to in helmet headphones. They all suck.

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any input on music reproducing quality of J&M elite series (wired) headphones?
have, ready to install, Baehr Ultima XL amp/preamp, garmin zumo 550 GPS with XM, and
an 8GB iPOD nano, running via wired headset (J&M Elite series). My question is this--
I have 2 pair of Sennheiser PX-200 home headsets that I could splice into (I hope--
the J&M helmet wiring has proprietary connectors that I would have to work around) the
remainder of the J&M wiring. I made a dry run with the Sennheisers inside my helmet
wired to an iPOD with excellent music reproduction (not quite enough volume, but the Baehr
will take care of that). It would be easier to connect the stock J&M headphones. Tech sup-
port at J&M is trying to convince me that their headphones would have BETTER music
reproduction (marketing hype?) because they are "engineered for this application"

Anyone have input/experience with the J&M headphones, particularly vs. good, home quality
haedphones-- the J&M headphones are about $90 a set vs. $45 a set for the Sennheisers.
Earplugs are not an option for me.

Much obliged
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Etymotic ER6i in-ear phones for about $70 online would be the way to go. Headphones in a helmet never worked well for me. The ER6i solved two problems - need for good sound and blocking wind noise.

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If you truly want good quality sound than you have to go with either in ear / noise canceling / blocking or custom molded in ear phones. It's just basic physics unless you're going to be sitting behind a barn door. I've done both in helmet and in ear. There is no comparison to in helmet headphones. They all suck.
Were the in ears Ultimate Ears? If so, which model? Did you have any trouble getting used to them? I'm getting a pair in a week or so. Will report.

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Were the in ears Ultimate Ears? If so, which model? Did you have any trouble getting used to them? I'm getting a pair in a week or so. Will report.
The UE model that I want cost like 1000 bucks or something. So not yet any way. So far the best I've done is a $200 pair of shures. But they are still light years ahead of anything in helmet.

Looking forward to reading what you think of them. I would think that they would be outstanding given that it's pretty much exactly what they are designed for. Let us know.

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any input on music reproducing quality of J&M elite series (wired) headphones?
No experience. I've tried a lot of different setups for music. I recently replaced my Autocom headphones with titanium drivers pulled out of a set of Koss headphones for a very good result, search on bmwlt.com and you'll find more on that.

I'll agree that an in-the-ear solution is going to be best for music. Any helmet system (I've tried at least 5) is going to lose out because not only is it farther from your ear but it will have to work through your earplugs.

Unfortunately in-the-ear music solutions are now against the law in California, so rather than tempt fate I've gone back to helmet speakers. The Koss solution is pretty good -- it's at least loud enough to hear at speed, though I do get some distortion when the volume is cranked all the way up.
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Unfortunately in-the-ear music solutions are now against the law in California, so rather than tempt fate I've gone back to helmet speakers. The Koss solution is pretty good -- it's at least loud enough to hear at speed, though I do get some distortion when the volume is cranked all the way up.
What? So how do they enforce it? And how come when I got pulled over this spring with the wire sticking out of my helmet didn't the CHP say a word about it? I even told the guy that I didn't notice him because I was adjusting the tunes on my Zumo. And how the hell can they say that without banning ear plugs period. My in ear phones cancel out the same db as a pair of foam ear plugs. Roughly 30db give or take. Now freaking bleeding heart left wing liberal CA is going to tell you that you need to ruin your hearing and go deaf? I thought they always new best and were supposed to protect us all!

More laws please.....yea yea yea....just what we need....more laws......

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