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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 19th, 2008, 9:18 pm Thread Starter
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Added dealer charge

So when I got my GT 2 years ago, it was MSRP.


Now I'm thinking of adding a GSA and a different dealer wants an additional 500 for prep charges. I said no. As I remember from the GT the MSRP covered prep. In fact thats what the Maronni sticker claimed........

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 20th, 2008, 6:57 am
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Dealer Charges

Any "dealer charges" are negotiable. I typically negotiate what I want to pay 'out the door' (OTD) and they can add all the crap they want, as long as my OTD price stays the same...

Some dealerships will deal, others won't; I don't do business with those that don't.

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Any "dealer charges" are negotiable. I typically negotiate what I want to pay 'out the door' (OTD) and they can add all the crap they want, as long as my OTD price stays the same...

Some dealerships will deal, others won't; I don't do business with those that don't.
I did the same thing when I bought my GT - we agreed on how much the check would be. After that, I had to help them with the math to get it to come out to the agreed total.
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There's a really creepy big-4/Duc dealership near here (not a BMW dealer) that I'll refer to as "Squidmart." Squidmart puts prominent red tags that indicate the MSRP, destination/freight, and setup charges that add up to their asking price. I noticed that the destination/freight and setup charges were different for different Ducatis. The charges were hundreds more for an S4RS than for an S2R, and astronomcally higher for a bike like a 1098R (like $1700!) Clearly, thy base their fees on a percentage of the MSRP. I asked the sales reptile how the fees could be so different, considering that all Ducatis come from the same shipping dock in Italy, in the same size box, and are essentially the same weight. And why did it cost $1000 to set up a 1098S vs. $650 for a low-end Monster. With a shop rate of $90/hr, that's over 11 hours of setup time!!!

When I pointed out how rediculous this was, the sales guy told me (a) "obviously, those fees are negotiable" and (b) "clearly, you are an experienced buyer who wouldn't have to pay those fees" and (c) "hey... it's capitalism... we have to try, don't we?"

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I'd almost feel better about it if they just said. "hey this the Bay Area" stuff is more expensivehere so we charge a bit more than say podunk BMW...... I dunno. BUt to just flat out lie and tell me that was a setup charge was not part of the MSRP.

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There's a really creepy big-4/Duc dealership near here (not a BMW dealer) that I'll refer to as "Squidmart." Squidmart puts prominent red tags that indicate the MSRP, destination/freight, and setup charges that add up to their asking price. I noticed that the destination/freight and setup charges were different for different Ducatis. The charges were hundreds more for an S4RS than for an S2R, and astronomcally higher for a bike like a 1098R (like $1700!) Clearly, thy base their fees on a percentage of the MSRP. I asked the sales reptile how the fees could be so different, considering that all Ducatis come from the same shipping dock in Italy, in the same size box, and are essentially the same weight. And why did it cost $1000 to set up a 1098S vs. $650 for a low-end Monster. With a shop rate of $90/hr, that's over 11 hours of setup time!!!

When I pointed out how rediculous this was, the sales guy told me (a) "obviously, those fees are negotiable" and (b) "clearly, you are an experienced buyer who wouldn't have to pay those fees" and (c) "hey... it's capitalism... we have to try, don't we?"

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Now I'm thinking of adding a GSA and a different dealer wants an additional 500 for prep charges.

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Maybe he used to be a Harely dealer?

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my dealer asked 25 EUROs, but that included the additional paperwork for a non standard inscription and administration process here in Belgium. extra (hidden) costs are just plain wrong.

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Had time to kill, so stopped by the local Honda dealer for a replacement van for the wife. Their additional sticker included: $160 for 4 locking lug nuts, 200 for mud flaps, and then 1,000 for market place demand. With 15 identical vans sitting there, demand may not be as great as they think.

MSRP includes a lot of dealer profit, those adding on top of it are slime balls looking for sheep to shear.

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