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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Sep 26th, 2008, 8:01 pm Thread Starter
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Had a no start situation; heads up

I washed the bike after riding it to work and then an errand before supper. Prior to starting washing it I raised the 'shield up. Washed it and went to put the shield back down-bike is stone dead. Nothing works at all. Fiddled with a few things (kill switch, etc), nothing. Called dealer and they asked me to check battery connections. I'd never had the battery cover off, but not intimidated by it, so pulled the screws, everything seemed tight enough, checked voltage and it was around 13.10 volts, so "huh....".
Guy at Mischlers BMW (Jason) asked me to check the connections at the switch. ( I had the EWS recall done about a week and a half ago, never have had an EWS warning though). So I am lookin and lookin, and hell I don't even SEE any connections. Dawns on me that GASP maybe they aren't there, so I check out an "up the skirt" view in front of the fairing and bigger than crap, there's my 2 switch connectors laying on top of the fork! I really can't figure out how I pulled them off but I must have. Just thought I'd mention it in case someone has something like this happen, sure was weird. I've driven over 300 miles since those connections would have been touched.
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Good find. You probably didn't pull it apart. It probably wasn't installed correctly.

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That's what I was thinking. It wasn't plugged to lock. Those little lock tabs are dayem robust, takes a small screwdriver to pull it up. You'll, fer certain, break a nail and will find yourself at the manucurist getting some new French Tips.

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Well what the heck guys. I was leaving work today (I have an odd work schedule, 6 on/ 2 0ff) and went out to the bike and of course just glanced at the connections, and what the......at least one if not both were off! The larger of the 2 definitely hanging, the second smaller one, well I was so peeved that now I'm not sure on it. I know damn well I had them both in place. I'd tend to agree it takes a bit to remove them just on purpose, how can they FALL off?? At least this time it was a no-brainer.
A little help from a GT2 owner would be appreciated. Take a look at that harness. On the pigtail by the connectors it is just wrapped in a fabric tape, this leads to a flexible plastic conduit. Where the conduit starts it looks like some sort of clip, hard to describe it, but a part on that clip looks like it might fit into a rectangular hole? So it might be related to that recall. I still can't imagine the harness catching on something and ripping the connectors out. PLUS I rode the bike to work and parked it, it ran fine to work. I'd have to study the suspension to see which way would tend to pull away from the ignition, would it be when I put it up on the center stand or taking it off the stand? I think putting it up on the stand right? Which might sort of make sense, I rode to work, shut it off, put it on the stand, then hours later I come back and the wire connectors are off.
But yesterdays scenario makes no sense. I already had it on the center stand, decided to put the shield up, then after washing the whole bike is dead and the connector is off.
This is just screwy. Things like this happen to me alot, I should be a tester for BMW, just give me a bike and by God if something is capable of getting screwed up it'll happen to ME!
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Are we talking about the harness for the EWS? You only need it to start the bike, not to run, right? So maybe when they did the recall they broke the locking clip. You put it back on but during the ride to work it fell off? Just a guess, I assume you noticed it "clicking" into lock when you put it together.
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If I'm not mistaken, the smaller one (3 wire I think) is EWS. There is a larger 5 pin which would be considered more like the ignition itself, although I suppose it is all just all CAN stuff.
It all seems to be locked in place at this point, and I am sure it clicked in yesterday, although I didn't pull hard to check. This time I have tugged fairly hard and they are definitely locked now. Will see what develops. I can't hardly believe it's caused by anyone messing with the bike.

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That's what I was thinking. It wasn't plugged to lock. Those little lock tabs are dayem robust, takes a small screwdriver to pull it up. You'll, fer certain, break a nail and will find yourself at the manucurist getting some new French Tips.
With the little designer pictures and all?! Been there.....

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With the little designer pictures and all?! Been there.....
The little designer pictures take too long. I'm one of those fill, buff and polish kind of guys, meself.

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Yeah but that cuticle thing hurts like a bitch!

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Yeah but that cuticle thing hurts like a bitch!
My wife actually had to wear bandaids on her fingers when some inattentive bitch raped her cuticles. It really threw her aim off with the larger calibers, which was a good thing for me. About that point she wondered what the hell she was doing slapping fake nails on her hands and gave it up. She did have to wear the patch for about 6 weeks.

A little thought, and whoever would have thought we'd meander back on topic, but anytime I take an electrical connection apart, I always use a small dab of dielectric grease before putting it back together. Prevents corrosion and I firmly believe in it.

Of course, with the problems that were had with the connection coming apart, and now you've got it to stay, Murphy's Law demands that it will never come back apart again without breaking.

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