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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 10th, 2009, 10:52 pm Thread Starter
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K1200/1300 engine origin

Does anyone know where this/our engine is being manufactured? I just read a road test in one of the monthly magazines on one of BMW 650 singles, I was shocked to learn that the engine being used in all of the 650 single BMW's are sourced and made in China by a large engine manufacturer. I know BMW was using the Rotax engines in this bike for the last several years and I also know that it is becoming a world economy but I find that an "up-scale, expensive" motorcycle manufacture sourcing engines from China is unacceptable. Anyway, are our engines German made? Thanks...........Bob
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Yes, it is German made. Here's proof: Twist the Throttle video

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The Slant/4 engines are German designed & built, but it wasn't until they were tweaked by a UK company that they really got it right. (The K13 engines were tuned by Ricardo.)

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Thanks for the replies. That somewhat puts my mind at ease. The video didn't show the new motor being assembled, it showed the older K engine and the boxer engine being assembled. The video did show a newer K bike being assembled.

That video is the very reason I buy BMW motorcycles (11 since 1994). I want that same sense of pride in ownership as they seem to have in building the bikes. However, I would have never bought this GT if I thought the engine and transmission were built in China or any other county other than Germany. Call me vain but when I am spending monies for a product that has earned its reputation for what ever reason, I don't want to find out later that it is not made for the reasons I bought it. Again thanks for the replies............Bob
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The Slant/4 engines are German designed & built, but it wasn't until they were tweaked by a UK company that they really got it right. (The K13 engines were tuned by Ricardo.)
Hi Meese,
What modifications did Ricardo make to the engine to get it right? Mine is a stock '07 GT with no mapping or airbox changes, valves are in spec ( checked 4000mi ago) new plugs and air filter. The bike will occasionally stall and it takes throttle poorly (not linear) when rolling on gently between 1500-3000 rpm. It just feels too lean to me. Do you know of a fix for this short of a new 1300?
I visited the Recardo link a saw that their new software VP is in the Detroit office also a U of Michigan grad.
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As a followup question, where are the F series motors produced???

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The new G engines are built by a company called Loncin in China. There is an article in the latest BMWON about that bike. And I was told by one of the sales people at a dealership that in order to get the new S1000RR in a competitive price range, that engine may be built in China as well. Don't know if that is true, but just passing the info along.

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Hi Meese,
What modifications did Ricardo make to the engine to get it right? Mine is a stock '07 GT with no mapping or airbox changes, valves are in spec ( checked 4000mi ago) new plugs and air filter. The bike will occasionally stall and it takes throttle poorly (not linear) when rolling on gently between 1500-3000 rpm. It just feels too lean to me. Do you know of a fix for this short of a new 1300?....
First off....keep the revs higher and this won't be a problem.

Get your airbox replaced. Mines an 07 and it made all the difference in the world. No problems since.

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Hey thanks, I brought this to my dealers attention twice and they didn't do anything because they could not reproduce the problem. Since I never had the dreaded BBS and it runs fine in the upper rpm ranges, I just resolved to live with it. If yours was doing the same thing and the airbox upgrade fixed it, I'm going to lean on them and get it replaced before the warranty expires.
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