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Improved handling- K1200GT

Yesterday I met up with Kreacher in Switzerland, and we spent the day riding on wet roads, and in some pretty heavy rain. I noticed that Kreacher had no problem or worries on the tight wet twisties on his K1200S , whereas my confidence levels were somewhat less, as I didn't have enough confidence in the front end, even though I have never had any "moments", rain or shine.

Stopping after an hour or so and parked next to his K1200S, it was obvious that there is a big difference in the centre of gravity of his bike vs mine, plus the GT is a lot heavier. Discussing the handling of these two bikes, I noted that the K1200S is very much like my old Blackbird in its seating position, a position I had no problems with for over 8 years, however, I realised that I haven't changed the bar position since I bought the bike last July, and have ridden some 18000kms since then.

I had been riding with the assumption that with higher bars you have greater leverage, but checking the position, we concluded that lowering it would have me leant forward a little and putting more weight over the front, which should improve feedback in these soaking wet conditions. The next hour or so was a revelation, railing round bends with a new found confidence, it was like a new bike and I cursed myself for not having made this change earlier. It reminded me of my old VFR which I had for months before messing with the preload and again finding a much better handling machine beneath me.

One problem remains though. At one stage I changed the setting to comfort and forgot about it, and in the heavy wind and rain, and on this setting, the bike seemed very reluctant to turn at all. I don't know if its the ESA, or whether its linked to the brakes, as the problem always seems to surface after braking for a bend, and then its reluctant to turn. Pads have enough meat on them not to need changing but perhaps the pistons are a little slow returning?

Anyway, moral of the story is experiment with settings, there may be something much better waiting to be found!!!!!!
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Man, I did 10 hours on a club ride with the "Contessa" on board yesterday.
She gets a little precious when I run on sport mode and we were occasionally on some patchy surfaces yesterday.
When 2 up and in comfort mode my GT turns into a full blown pig! Long highways, big miles, no problem. Put into some twisty stuff and its awful.
It wont turn in and when it does I have to really wrestle her back up if I need her to respond into an opposite direction.
I am 220lb and the minister for war is 140 and I think the GT is beyond its "sports" limits in this config.
I responded to your last thread re smooth gear shifting when 2 up and I think that the answer is the same, keep the back seat empty

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I've never had a passenger on my GT and felt like I was going to go down when entering a tight "S" corner while in Comfort Mode.Talk about waller. I can't imagine what it would be like two up.

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I can't imagine what it would be like two up.
It makes you a better rider. I spent the weekend two-up and this morning on the way to the office, I felt like Rossi. It's really quite amazing and enjoyable.

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It makes you a better rider. I spent the weekend two-up and this morning on the way to the office, I felt like Rossi. It's really quite amazing and enjoyable.
Ha! Depends on who it is.

Drove a friend's wife around on the back of mine as he hated hauling her on his Gold Wing. Found out why: She fidgets! Takes her helmet on and off (illegal, but try and tell her!), smokes, ties her laces, head-butts me a few times with her helmet, turns around and looks at something in turns, never shuts up (he's disabled his Gold Wing's mike's intercom), etc.

At least he thought it was funny from the expression on my face at the gas station when I told him "You can have her back." All she said was "Huh??" He's had too many discussions with her about riding back there and all has proved fruitless.

I guess you can put lipstick on a pig, but you can't teach one to ride on a Gold Wing - no matter how smart they are supposed to be.


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Lets just hope she doesn't read this board

In a similar vein, last year I discovered a bad cable in my Baehr intercom, the one that lets my pillion talk. I haven't thrown it out yet. Music comes through and she can hear me, but no voice from her. Those cables are really expensive, they cost at least $100, right? Right.

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... In a similar vein, last year I discovered a bad cable in my Baehr intercom, the one that lets my pillion talk. I haven't thrown it out yet. Music comes through and she can hear me, but no voice from her. ...
... and the problem is? Many riders would consider that a feature!
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... and the problem is? Many riders would consider that a feature!
Precisely.

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I've never had a passenger on my GT and felt like I was going to go down when entering a tight "S" corner while in Comfort Mode.Talk about waller. I can't imagine what it would be like two up.
Grif, your right, it is usually my fault that I forget to jiggle with the ESA when I arrive at the twisties and once Im in the corner with "Comfort" mode on, I am usually committed and get so focused on trying to keep a smooth line that i dont touch the button, then I forget again. I also think that the forgetfulness is due to recreational behavior in my formative years.

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Grif, your right, it is usually my fault that I forget to jiggle with the ESA when I arrive at the twisties and once Im in the corner with "Comfort" mode on, I am usually committed and get so focused on trying to keep a smooth line that i dont touch the button, then I forget again. I also think that the forgetfulness is due to recreational behavior in my formative years.
I hear you! Throw in age, too much sun and that insipid and insidious flat learning curve and you have the perfect storm of Gumpness.

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