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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2009, 5:48 pm Thread Starter
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OK...so I am riding through the Yakima canon (if you ever get to Wasington State, it is from Ellensburg, WA to Yakima, WA along the Yakima river...a must do ride) and the speed limit is 30 MPH. I come around one of the many corners, and get pulled over by the WSP. I asked the troop how fast, and he stated 32 MPH. Then stated that "all you motorcycles are a danger on this road". Oh really, "...how many cars do you stop that are going two miles over the limit?" ..."none, only bikers!" That's fine mister trooper, write away. Has anyone eles been profiled because they ride a motorcycle? Are all motorcyclists lumped together as A**holes (excluding Harley riders, of course). What can we do to improve our image to the public and law enforcement? Just interested.
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2009, 6:07 pm
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You really got a ticket for being 2MPH over the limit? I don't see how that can hold up in court since any speedometer on any vehicle can easily be off two miles per hour. If I were you that would be my defense. No speedometer is perfect, even Police continually recalibrate their speedometers exactly for that reason. Good luck

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I can't even drive 32mph without there being a danger of my falling over. I need the rotational speed of the wheels to create a gyroscopic effect to provide stability. That's why I was speeding officer.....the defense rests....your highness...er....honor.

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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2009, 6:55 pm
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The Ellensburg Canyon is very heavily patrolled. You better run under the speed limit if you go down it. On a holiday weekend, there will be multiple LEOs there at any given time.

You have little chance of fighting the ticket on the basis that the trooper said he will only pull over motorcycles. He will deny it in court. And if the judge concludes you were over the speed limit, he will not care that it was only by 2 mph....

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Here in Vermont you're allowed 10% speedometer error. That would equate to 33mph okay and 34mph you could get a ticket. Go to court over that ridiculous 2mph.

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I would think the speedo error accompanied by his comments that prove he is issuing tickets in a prejudicial manner should be enough to get out of that ticket fairly easily.

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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2009, 7:04 pm
 
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Nice. Another jerk in a uniform. This is why the police sometimes command so little respect. I have little use or respect for traffic cops. They can spare me the "Public Safety" bit. I'm not buying it. I got a ticket in a car once for doing 67 in a 65 on the 405 here in Los Angeles. Sunday, 7 am. Oh well. I guess you just have to pay it and accept your fate. Do you guys have the equivalent of traffic school you can attend and have the ticket erased? With budgets the way they are these days, I'm assuming they'd rather keep us all on the road so we can get more revenue receipts (tickets). I also suspect things will get worse as budgets run short for Government. Sorry for your woe.
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post #8 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2009, 7:12 pm
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Please do let us know what happens. I will be amazed if it holds up and you get convicted w/ points &/or fines for 2mph over. That said, gov't on all levels are searching for revenue. Here in Colorado we've seen a marked increase in traffic presence and folks being pulled over...much more than the usual increase due to tourist season. It's an easy revenue source.

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Please do let us know what happens. I will be amazed if it holds up and you get convicted w/ points &/or fines for 2mph over. That said, gov't on all levels are searching for revenue. Here in Colorado we've seen a marked increase in traffic presence and folks being pulled over...much more than the usual increase due to tourist season. It's an easy revenue source.

Yes they hope you just pay it. IF everyone went to court on these, with the cost of the officers and the court cost and all it would not make sense to the counties unless they increased the fines. In CA and I assume other states you can have most infractions waived if you just go to traffic school (only once per 18 months), most people opt to do that. Imagine what would happen if everyone went to traffic court? I'm guessing the officers would at a minimum not write borderline tickets.

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Yes they hope you just pay it. IF everyone went to court on these, with the cost of the officers and the court cost and all it would not make sense to the counties unless they increased the fines. In CA and I assume other states you can have most infractions waived if you just go to traffic school (only once per 18 months), most people opt to do that. Imagine what would happen if everyone went to traffic court? I'm guessing the officers would at a minimum not write borderline tickets.
But in California, they tack on court costs, as well as a bunch of other costs if you lose. I'm sure their overhead is covered by this with a bit left over. I miss the old days in Chicago when all you had to do was "make a donation" to the court and you just heard "DISMISSED" from the judge before you even got out of your seat.
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