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Steering damper or new windscreen?

My 09 KGT has an AeroFlow windscreen - which I REALLY like. But there is a disconcerting, slight 'wiggle' in the handle bars on the hiway caused by wind buffeting.... So my question is: Is the KGT suspension just not engineered to handle all the deflection created by an Aeroflow? Would a steering damper help quiet the play I feel? Or should I look for a small (get used to less protection) wind screen?
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My 09 KGT has an AeroFlow windscreen - which I REALLY like. But there is a disconcerting, slight 'wiggle' in the handle bars on the hiway caused by wind buffeting.... So my question is: Is the KGT suspension just not engineered to handle all the deflection created by an Aeroflow? Would a steering damper help quiet the play I feel? Or should I look for a small (get used to less protection) wind screen?
First, your bike has a steering dampner-yes-its there, just not very visible. Wiggle?-what is ment my wiggle? Wiggle could be caused my a variety of reasons, perhaps the screen-I have a CB +3+3- for many years-no issues. Checked front tire pressure lately?

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I have the aeroflow and also the add on side deflectors. At first I didn't like the extra buffetting, especially when passing 18 wheelers. Now I am used to it and love the xtra protection. Check your tire pressure, check your suspension setting (if adjustable) and ride on.

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First, your bike has a steering dampner-yes-its there, just not very visible. Wiggle?-what is ment my wiggle? Wiggle could be caused my a variety of reasons, perhaps the screen-I have a CB +3+3- for many years-no issues. Checked front tire pressure lately?
The front tire pressure - I've found running the tires harder than the what bmw says is better. How about you? I'm at about 3 bars (whatever that is in psi I'm not sure.)

By Wiggle I mean that because the wind deflected by the windscreen pushes the bike off track, I'm constantly making micro steering adjustments.

I haven't ridden that many other bikes - but I did test out a Harley Road Glide lately and it just drove in the direction it was pointed - my bike (I figure) should do the same - and hopefully much better....
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I have the aeroflow and also the add on side deflectors. At first I didn't like the extra buffetting, especially when passing 18 wheelers. Now I am used to it and love the xtra protection. Check your tire pressure, check your suspension setting (if adjustable) and ride on.
I, too, like the protection but think the buffetting that is no longer reaching me is now buffetting the bike... Especially in strong cross winds.

I'm very comfortable behind it - at any speed - but in windy conditions I find that the bike needs to be steered ALL the time. It doesn't seem to want to track very well on the straight aways... What's it like for you?
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The front tire pressure - I've found running the tires harder than the what bmw says is better. How about you? I'm at about 3 bars (whatever that is in psi I'm not sure.)

By Wiggle I mean that because the wind deflected by the windscreen pushes the bike off track, I'm constantly making micro steering adjustments.

I haven't ridden that many other bikes - but I did test out a Harley Road Glide lately and it just drove in the direction it was pointed - my bike (I figure) should do the same - and hopefully much better....
Humm-3bars_not sure what that equates to either but on all the brands I have gone thru-presently new Dunlop RoadSmart, run 37f and 42r. Not to sound condescending, but how long have u been riding? Micro adjustments are part of everyday riding. Faster u go-the more wind u are pushing-especially with a big screen. When riding a sport bike like my Duc-low mini screen-really just part of the front cowl-must less wind effect. I would suggest to ride with another guy on a similar GT style bike with a good sized screen and compare notes. I think u will see its just part of riding the beast.
As for riding a big HD-i know what u mean. Owned an older UltraGlide for many years-reliable as an anvil. She was really steady on the road up to 70-+ mph. Anything over 80 and she would shake her head-literally-and say-no way brother, slow down or I will kick u off.

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Humm-3bars_not sure what that equates to either but on all the brands I have gone thru-presently new Dunlop RoadSmart, run 37f and 42r. Not to sound condescending, but how long have u been riding? Micro adjustments are part of everyday riding. Faster u go-the more wind u are pushing-especially with a big screen. When riding a sport bike like my Duc-low mini screen-really just part of the front cowl-must less wind effect. I would suggest to ride with another guy on a similar GT style bike with a good sized screen and compare notes. I think u will see its just part of riding the beast.
As for riding a big HD-i know what u mean. Owned an older UltraGlide for many years-reliable as an anvil. She was really steady on the road up to 70-+ mph. Anything over 80 and she would shake her head-literally-and say-no way brother, slow down or I will kick u off.
No offense taken :-) I appreciate your suggestions. I think I'll play with a couple of windscreens and ask a technician about the steering damper, too.

Everytime I try another make/model/brand, no matter what it is - I climb back on to this KGT and like it more :-) I'm sure that I'll be able to continue to tweak it to perfection.

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Answer 3 Bar = 43.5 PSI

Question - where is the steering damper located?

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Yea, lookedit up. 3bars or 43psi-is way too hard-least in my estimation. Try 37psi in front and see how she tracks. Steering damper-pull the handle bars all way to right-look down from the top left side of that small black nipple just below and aft of the bars-btwn the the front of tank and center of bar mount. Use a flashlight and u will see the slide and just the left side of the damper. Can take a pic if u still dont see it.

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I, too, like the protection but think the buffetting that is no longer reaching me is now buffetting the bike... Especially in strong cross winds.

I'm very comfortable behind it - at any speed - but in windy conditions I find that the bike needs to be steered ALL the time. It doesn't seem to want to track very well on the straight aways... What's it like for you?

I have to agree that the bike at speed in windy conditions is NOT as stable as without the Aeroflow. Maybe more frontal and side area causes it. In all I like the trade off as the noise and bufetting with the stock tall was misery with any helmet I tried.

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