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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Aug 19th, 2009, 3:31 pm Thread Starter
 
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Avon Storm ST Initial Impressions

I just replaced the stock Bridgestones on my '08GT after 6300 miles. The front tire had a very strange bump/wave wear pattern that developed in the last 1500 miles, and the rear was pretty flat in the middle from lots of highway use. These tires were OK for most conditions around here (generally flatland), and were particularly good in the wet, although in the corners, they never inspired lots of confidence and made a significant whining/humming noise when leaned over. I just picked up the bike with the new Avons - after 25 miles all I can say is WOW! Taking the tight ramps on and off the interstate, the bike was like a new machine. It leaned over easily and held a line as if it were going straight. The tires were quiet like never before. Obviously, I need to put many more miles on for a full comparison, but my initial response is very positive. I wish they put these on from the factory!
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The funny bump/weave pattern of wear on you OEM tires is common, some here call it feathering. Running slightly higher tire pressures may alleviate it to some extent, but it seems an inevitable thing with the Bridgestones. By the time I changed my first pair of BT020's (9,000 miles!) they were worn as you describe, with the back so square I could feel it 'fall over' as I tipped into a turn. New BT021's cured that.

I'll be anxious to hear how your Avons wear.

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The funny bump/weave pattern of wear on you OEM tires is common, some here call it feathering. New BT021's cured that.

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It's also called cupping.

And the BT021's will do it too.

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I have never tried any Avon tires. Upon Meese's recommendation I put on the Storms also and after a 4000 mile trip I think they are the best tires I've ever run.

No funny wear patterns, track straight and true, and leaning into the turns are the same now as when they were brand new. Haven't run much in the rain so no opinion there.

The tires I last ran were Michelens. I found the wear of the front caused a change in handling and worse they would cause a severe wobble of the bike tracking a groove in the road parrallel to the direction of travel... That woke me up several times! Never have had Metzlers or the Storms do that to me.

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My old bike, the K75S, had that cupping and would really do odd things at times. That was with Metzeler Marathon bias-ply front. Went to a Lazertec (or whatever they are called) and those worked out better, good combo with a Marathon bias-ply rear.
I'm getting the cupping on my GT with the stocker Bridgestone Battleax tires. But I haven't FELY anything adverse so an trying to squeeze them out til I hit the wearbars if I can.
I get the whining really bad now too. Especially with the helmet all closed up and the bike windshield raised, man it just howls. I was at first worried it was the final drive! (Does it on fast curves)
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I'm on my third set of Storms. I averaged about 12k km on the first two pair. The "new bike" feeling never leaves and is the best way to describe these tires. I have yet to find a circumstance where they haven't performed very well. I ran a track day on the second set when they had 1k on them. They were very confidence inspiring. And actually outlasted the first pair by a few hundred kms.

When you consider their price, handling characteristics, mileage potential, road-hazard warranty (at least in Canada) and even their looks, I can't imagine ever wanting anything else.

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I definitely think recommendations like these for a particular bike are the best bet for getting some great tires. Original OEM selections are often compromises for a number of reasons and, while brand loyalty is commendable, the same tire behaves differently for different bikes.

The Pilot Road 2's were a revelation on my old Honda. The OEM tires were great too (they were Dunlops designed for the bike), but once they became unavailable, the recommended replacement from Dunlop was awful! Putting the Road 2's on was like getting a new bike (or at least getting my old one back)!

So, even though they were great on the Honda, I'll probably be giving those Avons a try on the GT (even thought I've never had Avons before) once my OEM 'stones start having issues. Thanks for all the good info!
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I had a set of Avon's on my bike. Riding two-up in Sequoia National Park, the belts began to show on the rear at one stop (Man, they wear out quick past that wear bar!). Had to use a land-line to call the dealer in Fresno to get a new set of tires installed on a Saturday. Bike made it there even with the belt showing.

Turns out they only had Metzeler and the "Insurance. Liability. Must buy both. Yadda. Yadda." stuff ensued. So I did buy both, even though the front would have made it through another rear tire. That made for a very expensive afternoon.

Immediately I noticed a much harsher ride due to the tread design on the front as well as the bumpy feedback due to the steel belts in the Metzeler verses the fabric in the Avon.

I haven't been a fan of steel-belted tires since even on the car. Too harsh and noisy of a ride - and the little rubber mushroom plugs shot into tires at times might get cut by the steel belt (never happened to me personally, but I have run on plugged tires for a while).


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I had several sets of the Storms on my FJR and loved them and usually got a a little better than 6,000 miles. I have a set of Pilots 2 on my GT1200 and love them also and the rear looks like it will go 7, 000 miles. By the way the Storms were the best tire in the rain that I ever had. Havent had the Piots in the rain.

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Well, I usually get 6-7K miles on a rear Storm, but on a recent ride starting in California I managed to wear a Storm down to the wear bars in 48 hours and 2,700 miles. Now I might have gotten a few hundred more miles out of it, but I was heading off into the wilds of Canada and so decided to just get it changed out in Winnipeg.

Note that these results aren't typical and in this case, YMMV truly does apply . . .




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