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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 2009, 8:12 pm Thread Starter
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When the Grinders Are Low

Hi All,

Since it was brand new, I was nervous about the smallish sidestand foot on our heavy GTs and the lean in of the bike when parked as well. So,... I started to look for something that would work better and found the links left by some of you about aftermarket foot extenders. Last winter, I bought and installed a unit by Hornig that cost about $40. The quality is great and it works very well. I haven't left any footprints in the hot asphalt all summer long, and the foot actually raises the angle of the parked bike to one I like better - most of the time.

The only complaint I have had is that occasionally I find myself in a situation where the parking angle is too upright - like on the shoulder of a road that crowns off pretty sharply. Then I have to angle the bike into the pitch more to make a more comfortable lean in the parking angle.

Another of your warnings was that these foot extenders can end up becoming grinding points on sharp left hand sweeps. Well, this past weekend I did some pretty aggressive riding (for me), and sure enough, I managed to loose a little weight off the foot of the sidestand. I'm just glad it wasn't something expensive.

Thought I might share a couple of photos with you.

Here is the leading edge of the foot now. It's pretty obvious where the grinding occurred.

Here is a picture on the centerstand in my garage with the sidestand up.

And here is one from the front of the bike trying to look down the side. Hummmmm,... I must have had that baby leaned over a bit - and with side cases and all.

If you are interested in the trip report where this happened, visit the link below. A very twisty mountain road with many corners signed as low as 15 mph.

Trip Report


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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 2009, 8:26 pm
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Hard to believe there are still chicken strips on the tires. Maybe without the extender you can take it all the way over.

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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 2009, 1:40 am Thread Starter
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Chicken Strips

Hey Gilly,

Out here in the west we have mountains and curvy roads which make it kind of hard to preserve "chicken strips" very long - even for old guys on GTs like me.

I do a lot of highway commuting which tends to flatten out the center of the tires, but after looking at some U-Tube videos about "chicken strips" I don't feel bad at all about where mine are. There I see some guys showing off 1" strips.

Here are a couple more pictures of my tires. Both are Metzler Z-6.

The fronts have 13,700 miles on them, and are just about on the wear bars in the center. I think this trip actually rounded them out a bit. I'd say the "chicken strips" are at most 9/16" from the edge and 3/8" minimum.

Here is the rear. It has 8,500 miles on it and quite a bit of rubber left. I'm thinking the strip is at most 3/8" from the edge and more like only 3/16".

I am real happy with the mileage I've gotten out of the Metzlers, and I've got a set of fresh Dunlop Roadsmarts sitting in the garage rafters waiting for the rainy season to come around, (but not too soon I hope). Our summer has been pretty awesome.

I guess the foot on my sidestand will do well being my left side curb feeler. Better that then my fairing or final drive. I'm pretty sure that if they were to touch I'd also be sliding down the road on my arse.

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Yup, just ditch the footpad extender and those elephants should finally be history.

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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 2009, 8:03 am
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+1 on the Hornig extender. Yes, it will scrape before any of the stock pieces, but it does a great job of mitigating the excessive lean angle and inadequate surface area of the stock sidestand foot.

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 2009, 5:36 am
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Ilium Works Makes a nice one too

Ilium Works GT side stand foot

I purchased one of these while at the BMWMOA Rally in TN and it works very well. Big enough to stop the asphalt diving and the loop makes it easier to flip up and down.

A+ for quality and workmanship.

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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 12th, 2009, 8:46 pm
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Nice. Looks like you also took a little bit off that lower belly pan, too.

I solved my side stand problem by adding a little thickness and a lot more surface area by welding on another plate. The plate doesn't interfere with anything on the bike, nor does it scrape, even when the pegs are down hard.

It ain't pretty, but now it sure is solid.

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Those pictures of your tires and your peg feelers show that you are not leaning the bike over enough (which is totally fine) to warrant touching down. I think the problem has to do with your suspension not doing its job. Have you ever checked how much sag you have in the suspension? Is this an ESA bike and if so what setting were you on? Do you have a lot of miles on the shocks? Were you heavily loaded at the time?
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 15th, 2009, 2:54 am
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I made an extender similar to the one shown when I first had the bike. That got scraped in the same way as shown. When the Wonderlich one became available I noticed it had a little more clearance on that side. I fitted one. Still touched it down a few times though, although you do get an extra few degrees before the sparks fly!
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