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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Aug 30th, 2009, 9:25 am Thread Starter
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I've recently bought a low-mileage 2008 K1200GT, and I'm loving it! I traded in my owned-from-new R1200GS and I haven't been disappointed yet (I also have an F650GS for lanes and plodding).

One question: it came with the larger topcase in silver (the bike is deep metallic blue). A local paint shop has told me they can get an accurate match for the paint so the topcase mathces the bike and panniers. I'd like to remove the silver outer shell from the case lid to ensure a decent job. How does it remove? I've taken out the five screws (that hold the backrest in place) but the blck plastic liner is still held firmly in place.

Is there a method or knack to this, or are they made not to be removable?

Thanks in advance,

Robin.

(PS I used to own a flat K1200RS and through a website that covered those, I became friends with a guy from Seattle called Lew Barrett. I think he went through a tricky time with his business a couple of years ago, and I've lost his e-mail addresses. Anyone over there know him, or of him? Thanks.)
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Hello

I've recently bought a low-mileage 2008 K1200GT, and I'm loving it! I traded in my owned-from-new R1200GS and I haven't been disappointed yet (I also have an F650GS for lanes and plodding).

One question: it came with the larger topcase in silver (the bike is deep metallic blue). A local paint shop has told me they can get an accurate match for the paint so the topcase mathces the bike and panniers. I'd like to remove the silver outer shell from the case lid to ensure a decent job. How does it remove? I've taken out the five screws (that hold the backrest in place) but the blck plastic liner is still held firmly in place.

Is there a method or knack to this, or are they made not to be removable?

Thanks in advance,

Robin.

(PS I used to own a flat K1200RS and through a website that covered those, I became friends with a guy from Seattle called Lew Barrett. I think he went through a tricky time with his business a couple of years ago, and I've lost his e-mail addresses. Anyone over there know him, or of him? Thanks.)
Welcome! Great site here with lots of helpful people. I wondered the same thing about removing the silver outer shell and cannot see a way to do this. A competent body shop ought to be able to properly mask it. Out of curiosity, how much did they quote you to do the paint job?
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Welcome! Great site here with lots of helpful people. I wondered the same thing about removing the silver outer shell and cannot see a way to do this. A competent body shop ought to be able to properly mask it. Out of curiosity, how much did they quote you to do the paint job?
A neighbour of mine runs a body repair shop. We discussed masking as an option, but removal will make the job both quicker for him (and therefore cheaper) and leave no masking lines.

75 is the charge for me, but that includes repairing a couple of small scratches on the lid. No idea what you'd pay in the the US!
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I really wouldn't mess with any disassembly beyond removing the backrest pad and the screws that hold the hinges to the lower section. Any competent shop should be able to mask the rest as necessary.

Cost should be around $100-$150. BMW uses a water-based paint and the shop will probably have to order it. It's not cheap, I think mine was $52 for a pint.
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Painting the topcase

+1 on masking.

Had mine done to match my Graphite GT and it turned out great.

No need to remove the inner section, the bodyshop just masked it.

I think it cost me $150 to have the topbox and one side lid repainted (did a little side-lid bouce - ugh!)

Best of luck with the new bike!

Mike

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Easy paint job

I had mine color-matched for $200 US. When I ordered thetop case, I alsoordered yhe onrfor the 1200LT...which comes in black metallic rather than the silver.

Another thing I did was take a side bag in and have themcolor-match it to the bag, as that's what you'll notice the most. This seemed to be a faster and easier match for the body shop.

For preparing, they simply removed the hinges, then backrest and the BMW emblem. The rest they masked.

Overall it turned out great and it Looks much better then the stock color.
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Cost should be around $100-$150. BMW uses a water-based paint and the shop will probably have to order it. It's not cheap, I think mine was $52 for a pint.
Any body shop should be able to mix the paint for the bike, they just need the paint code. Whether its solvent or water base doesn't matter.
And $52/pint is actually pretty cheap for paint today.
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+1 on masking.
+1 on removing only the backrest and hinges.

Pay attention to the masking. The painter should mask the gasket carefully. He/she should paint the inside of the rim as well as the outside, or it won't look right.
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Any body shop should be able to mix the paint for the bike, they just need the paint code. Whether its solvent or water base doesn't matter.
Have you actually had one painted? Lots of people told me that any body shop 'should' be able to do it but both shops I went to said the same thing... they prefer not to try to match water-based paints with an oil-based substitute.
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Have you actually had one painted? Lots of people told me that any body shop 'should' be able to do it but both shops I went to said the same thing... they prefer not to try to match water-based paints with an oil-based substitute.
they're doing it on the cars in their shop now, many cars have waterborne on them from the factory these days, and most body shops in the US (except CA) are still using solvent borne paint.

also, this is not a butt match, the case sits up and away from the bike, meaning you have some space to fool the eye.

and no, I haven't had one painted myself, but I have the benefit of a little knowledge in the area
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