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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 2009, 11:45 pm Thread Starter
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How to tie down on rack

What is the best way to tie down things on the rear rack/seat?

My laptop and bag wonít fit in the side bag so I am looking for a good way to strap it to the back and I have not figured out the proper way to attach to the rack. Any ideas and what sort of straps/nets do you use?
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A trunk?

This is a tough one, as neither the rear rack or the rear seat is flat, so anything will be a compromise. You could look into a dry sack which straps down to the passenger grab handles. I'm not sure I'd trust anything less than that with my laptop.

By the way, this is one of the reasons I went to a 13" MacBook. With a well-fitted messenger case, it fist into the saddlebags quite nicely and still leaves me room for clothes or other goodies.

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Well a trunk is coming in the future but I have to sell a lot of V Star stuff first. I was thinking of a GIVI E55 MAXIA 3

I tried using a net on it but there are just not very many good places to attach them to. I may have cut down some of my other straps as I donít care of elastic stuff much.

for short term I may go get another bag, I have about 6 now
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What is the best way to tie down things on the rear rack/seat?

My laptop and bag wonít fit in the side bag so I am looking for a good way to strap it to the back and I have not figured out the proper way to attach to the rack. Any ideas and what sort of straps/nets do you use?
That is a very good question. I keep a 17 inch laptop in a 49 liter BMW top case. It is the only BMW case that will fit the backpack with laptop inside. If you aren't going to wear a backpack, then the sooner you get a top case, the better. If you don't buy a top case, you may have to buy a strong laptop case with money that could have been used towards a top case.

Bungie Net

On my Magna, I used a bungie net, with the laptop case held down by two pairs of front hooks attached to the grab handles, and the third pair attached to each other behind the short pillion backrest. On my K1200GT, I would think about something similar, with two pairs attached to the grab handles, and the third pair wound tightly around the rack to prevent the laptop from sliding backwards.

Bungie Net Problems and Concerns

Bungie nets stretch and loose their elasticity. You must replace them often.

Early in my riding career, I lost a duffle bag on an LA freeway when one side (3 hooks) of a bungie net unhooked itself. The bungie net was dangling on the other side of the bike, and could have easily hooked or tangled with the rear wheel, resulting in a rider's death (me!). Never again.

(A kindly and foolhardy man risked life and limb to recover my possessions, which were scattered over six lanes of the East LA Interchange, at the northbound 5/101 split. This happened at 5:00 PM on a Friday afternoon ... But I digress...)

Twice the backpack holding my laptop slid sideways off the pillion seat, where it was held in place by the stretched bungie net itself, like a side saddle. The hooks stayed in place, but it was definitely not a good thing.

Laptop Robustness and Durability

I have found that Apple laptops are well built and can withstand the vibrations, trials, and tribulations of a daily commute by motorcycle. My non-Apple laptops have not fared as well. I have never had a motorcycle-related problem with four different Apples, but can't say the same for two Dells and an HP. YMMV, of course.

Dangers to Your Laptop - You Need a Good, Strong Laptop Case

Another concern is that the pressures required to hold your gear in place may damage the laptop, especially the delicate screen, which can crack. A good laptop case is essential. I use the Brenthaven professional cases and backpacks. They came with heavily padded and shock-resistant removable liners. Unfortunately, they haven't been made for a long time, and were quite expensive ($150 and up).

In your situation, consider a very strong hard shell case that can shield the laptop from the pressures applied by bungies or straps, as well as the vibrations and strong jolts caused by chuckholes and rough roads. It must also protect the laptop in a fall from motorcycle seat height to a hard concrete floor. Few cases can do that. The original Brenthavens can, because of their padded inner liners and other special shock absorbing features. Hopefully a hard shell case can do it too, but it would be best to ask.

Modern Solutions May Be Better (Rok Straps)

These days, I would NOT use a bungie net. Instead, I would find a way to use Rok Straps. I recommend them highly. They are very secure, and won't scratch or damage your motorcycle or gear. Be careful with them - you can tighten them to the point where they apply extreme pressure to your gear.

http://www.rokstraps.com/

Get the kind with the loops at the end, not the hooks. I have two pairs of the large and two pairs of the small. I keep one pair of each under my KGT seat, for tying unexpected packages to the pillion seat and rack. I keep another pair of each handy for when I know I will use them. I bought mine here:

Large: http://www.chromeglow.com/catalog.asp?prodid=554291
Small: http://www.chromeglow.com/catalog.asp?prodid=554292

Other Dangers: Theft and Loss of Data

Thieves will notice your laptop and attempt to steal it. They are quite clever, and can steal it in less than one second, while you are watching. You should encrypt your data, preferably with whole disk encryption software such as PGP or Bitlocker (if available). Do not leave your laptop case unattended for any reason. Period.

You will also need a good backup solution for when the hard drive fails, or the laptop dies or is stolen. It is inevitable, but motorcycle commutes add significant stress to laptops.

(The battery on my motorcycle died after an ordinary fill-up. I was 15 feet away from the motorcycle, staring right at it while I was on the phone. A thief walked by, between me and the motorcycle. He stole the case in less than a second. In less than 15 seconds, he took it to the gas station washroom, removed my laptop and camera from the case, left the case and the rest of my stuff behind, and disappeared. It all happened in the blink of an eye. Fortunately, my data was encrypted. I bought a new laptop the next day, restored my data from the backup, and was running within a day. I lost less than a day's work. But I digress... )

Safest Solution: Wear a Backpack?

One final comment. Think about wearing a backpack with your laptop in it. This is the most secure, shock resistant solution of all. It is good for a short commute, but won't work for a trip of any length. If you're like me, your laptop case is heavy and full of stuff. This solution works for me when I have a "loaner" bike, but I hate it, even for short trips.
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Great backpacks!

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I have used two things

1 - a back pack - ok but uncomfortable

2 - rock straps

Full stop with #2, I put my laptop in my back pack, put the back pack on the rear seat and criss cross over that with the rock straps - done.

actually since I got the RS's I just leave them on the bike self attached snugly on the seat for any immediate use.

Perfect for me.


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Thanks XmagnaRider: I carry a laptop to work and I load it in the garage and at work I take it off on in a secured parking area so I never leave it alone. Now when I take my laptop I use a back pack with my DSLR and lenses in it so that one is big enough it may require the 55 liter

As for bungies I have a friend that she had one break and it hit her in the eye and she had problems for several year. Well there are some folks out there that running around on the 5/101 would be a natural

I have heard several folks talk about ROK straps for camping too, I will have to look at them., I like the loop idea much better than hooks.



Thanks Dale I will look those over when I get home, they are a bit small on my phone


Semper_Fi, have you had anyone try to help them selves to your straps? I am not very trusting I guess

Laterider, it is a cheap laptop, it belongs to the company , I do have a phone with a web browser and stuff but I have to carry a laptop to work and when I travel I want to take my DSLR and I have to have my Photoshop too
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I hope the Laptop has good warranty insurance? The G forces on the tails of most bikes are horrendous.

I once bought a mother board mail order and carried it 5 miles in my top case. It didn't work. I got a replacement, did the same thing - that didn't work so I started wondering. Then I got a third, same model, but carried it in my backpack. That worked fine.

Before that I once bought a small tin of paint, checked the lid was secure before I left the shop, arrived home with a popped lid and a trunk full of red paint!

If I was regularly carrying my own laptop in a top trunk, I would get a size large enough to fit a tray with bungie supports at the corners so the laptop could be floated on 'shock' mounts.

Since most laptops need a ton of bits and pieces now, I went for a laptop bag which had 2 shoulder straps - ok unless you carry passengers on the bike. Nice and comfy for dodging about on the subways too.



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Have to agree with several other replies - the Rok straps are the way to go. They've handled any load I've been able to throw at them and they stretch to infinity. I've had both my laptop pack and camera pack strapped down with them and haven't had a problem. Just criss-cross them and pull tight.
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