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K1300GT and S recall

There is an official recall on the stalling issue:

Recall info from DealerNews

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Here is the official NHTSA page on the recall:

NHTSA recall 09V471000

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You know, this just really saddens me...or pisses me off. Talk about crap quality control. (This amongst all the other issues)

"Poor fuel quality may lead to small deposits within the throttle bodies. During low-rpm engine operation, typically near idle speed (like when coming to a stop), air flow could be sufficiently restricted and engine stalling could occur."

It sounds like the exact same issue that we had with the 12's...no? I mean come on now, how many years do they need to fix the same issue? Mine was "fixed" under warranty, and I do have to say that since the new air box and TB assembly my bike has run beautifully.

So is this the same thing? Or a new issue. Reads like it is the same.What did they do use the left over air boxes and throttle bodies and put them on the 13's hoping no one would notice?

Geez BMW keeps shooting them selves in the foot......good thing I love my bike! Maybe I'm just nuts sticking with it.

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I didn't know they were having issues.

I guess I need to ride mine so I know if it has issues.............

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This is NOT the same thing as the K1200GT issues, which were easily resolved in my case with the software/airbox recall. I'm quite pleased.

These are high performance machines and need care and feeding. And their forte' is NOT idling...
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These are high performance machines and need care and feeding. And their forte' is NOT idling...
Mine idles at 85-105? No wonder I keep hitting the ton, I'm not using the throttle.
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This is really interesting.
Im curious as to how a software update will prevent poor fuel from leaving deposits?
They are very clever these Germans but i think they are just fuc%&n with my head

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This is not the same issue as the K1200 series.The K1200's had poor fueling, and high idle symptoms. The high idle was corrected with a new air-box, which maintained it's dimensions under high heat situations, and the low speed fueling was mostly corrected with software. The K1200's did not have the stalling being experienced by the K1300 series. The 1300's are reporting stalling when coming to s stop, downshifting, and even at highway speeds. As you know, unlike in a car, stalling on a bike can be a serious problem, we depend on accelerating in a turn to keep us up. Anyway this thing is not a TSB anymore, and if you get a recall notice in the mail I strongly suggest following through and having the work done. I'm not an attorney, but when NHTSA, and BMWNA announce a recall, if you ignore it, and the problem causes a crash, you will likely find yourself with no legal recourse.

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This is not the same issue as the K1200 series.The K1200's had poor fueling, and high idle symptoms. The high idle was corrected with a new air-box, which maintained it's dimensions under high heat situations, and the low speed fueling was mostly corrected with software. The K1200's did not have the stalling being experienced by the K1300 series. The 1300's are reporting stalling when coming to s stop, downshifting, and even at highway speeds. As you know, unlike in a car, stalling on a bike can be a serious problem, we depend on accelerating in a turn to keep us up. Anyway this thing is not a TSB anymore, and if you get a recall notice in the mail I strongly suggest following through and having the work done. I'm not an attorney, but when NHTSA, and BMWNA announce a recall, if you ignore it, and the problem causes a crash, you will likely find yourself with no legal recourse.
FYI, my '06 stalled when pulling in the clutch numerous times and I have it on video. The dealer had seen it and pushed the issue with BMW NA.

Began with the BBS nonsense first. Graduated to high-idle (2200-3200 RPM) sticking interludes which manifested as BBS at times. Then went on to do the stalling (which is a good way to get run over if someone is behind you thinking you are still going or will go soon).

After whatever airbox they are up to now (twice) and a new servo, software, added Power FRK, all is well finally - but it took 3 years to get there and a bunch of dealers (5 different ones).

The 1300's appear to be on the "3 years to get it right track" as well.

I'm hoping BMW AG gets the S1000RR right as that bike seems to have been around one year racing, showing off, and road testing before the public even gets their hands on it. Most others appeared almost immediately when they were introduced and the public "beta tested" them which wasn't smart for all the bugs that cropped up.

I haven't seen any new LT testing going on with that new 6-cylinder engine. Hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot with a premature release to the public who may again be the "beta tester" for that model.


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Someone sounds bitter.
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