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Radar detectors???

OK....I'm curious, what should I get?

Is a car version the same as what they sell as Motorcycle versions?

ValentineOne?

Vs

Escort?

Can it still detect rear radar when 'you' the driver are seated right behind it? Unlike a car install where it is center mounted.

Smoked windscreen a problem?

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OK....I'm curious, what should I get?

Is a car version the same as what they sell as Motorcycle versions?

ValentineOne?

Vs

Escort?

Can it still detect rear radar when 'you' the driver are seated right behind it? Unlike a car install where it is center mounted.

Smoked windscreen a problem?
Car and bike versions are the same.
Valentine or Escort. You choose. Check www.radardetector.net for more info and comparisons. I have a Bel STi driver which is undetectable by radar detector detectors. Since I live in VA where RDs are illegal...
Yes, the RD can pick up radar behind the rider(s).
Smoke screen is not a problem. My RD is in my tankbag and it picks up radar just fine.

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Both are excellent detectors. The big difference is the V1's ability to tell you where the threat is coming from (direction). V1 requires a couple of additional parts for audio and possibility visual when used on a bike. Escort has units that have GPS locators within and are able to learn locations of false alerts. Your call! Personally, I can't imagine being without the ability to know what direction the signal is coming from.

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Some of the latest generation Escorts have some nifty features, but nothing beats the front/rear detection offered by the Valentine 1.

When I was asking the same question, I started looking at what the Long Distance Rider crowd was using. I figure guys that do 30-50K miles a year (or more) ought to know what works and what doesn't. Easily 90% of the LD bikes that I saw that had radar detectors were running V1s. So that's what I bought.

The only downside I've found with the V1 (besides price) is that it's not waterproof. But that goes for most radar detectors, and there are waterproof boxes that you can get.

I've been running a V1 for a couple of hundred thousand miles now, and it has saved me well over its own cost in tickets and insurance hikes. I pretty much won't ride the bike without it in place and active. In fact, the only time I take it off is when I have to do a long car drive, and then V1 comes off the bike and goes in the car with me . . .

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OK I'm sold on A V1.

Now what is required to wire it up? Considering our wonderful CANBUS.
Would it just be a hard wire to the battery terminals?

And I have a AUTOCOM system...can the audio be routed to it?

Yes I'm a chicken shittt when it comes to electrical so I'd need hand holding in this area.

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With all the new technologies the police are using these days like instant-on, laser, etc. are radar detectors really that useful anymore ?

Don't have one and not really sure they are worth it anymore, bought one a garage sale in the late 70's not sure it ever worked and gave it away a month later, 30+ years without and no complaints. Some VERY close calls though especially now that I ride the GT, including one yesterday.
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If it works once its paid for itself.....I know I should have had one last summer when I got that ticket in Nevada.


Ok, now I learned I need the V1 remote audio control unit to tap into my sound system. So that's another box and cost.

Weather proofing....Mmmmm I see that big box offered that seals the main unit. but....

Could I just cover it all up with a cheap motel shower cap when needed? Making sure it doesn't blow off of course. Will the RD still work through cheap clear plastic.
(Yeah I know about not speeding in the rain and that conversation)
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are radar detectors really that useful anymore ?
Yes. Mine has given me very useful early warnings too many times to count. I've even been saved from dead-on laser hits due to my V1.

A radar detector is not a "get out of jail free" card. It's just additional information about your immediate surroundings that can be used to make smart decisions. But it's still the rider who's in control of the bike, and the throttle . . .

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Could I just cover it all up with a cheap motel shower cap when needed?
Yeah, that works. You can also get elastic bowl covers in the grocery store that look like small shower caps that tend to fit the small V1 a bit better than a full-sized shower cap.

For a long time, my V1 was just velcroed on so if it started to rain I'd just unplug it and stash it away. Eventually I got the cover box and now I just keep on riding.

The Remote Audio Adapter is not waterproof, and would need to be tucked away somewhere safe and dry.

Alos take a look at LegalSpeeding.com. They carry various waterproof covers as well as LED-based warning lights that can be mounted high and centered on the bike or even up in your helmet.

Even the best radar detector is useless if you don't see/hear it go off . . .

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You can wire it directly to the tailight or parking light wire. That way the V1 will be on a switched circuit that cuts power with the ignition. I have mine wired via the tailight and no problems with the canbus. That also keeps everything nicely out of weather!

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