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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Sep 19th, 2015, 10:10 am Thread Starter
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Disappointed by the K12GT Naysayers

I've been off this site for about a year for a variety of reasons and I haven't been able to ride for about that long either. Now I'm riding again and back on this forum catching up and it's great to see a lot of familiar names still posting. However I'm surprised and more than disappointed at some of the comments being made about the K1200GT.

It's not a piece of you know what or worse as some posters say. With maybe Meese being the exception, as the original owner I've gone through almost everything that everyone else has gone through and I STILL get the same level of enjoyment every time I twist the throttle.

Maybe I'm just a diehard fan but this is still the best bike I've ever owned and I have no intention of ever getting rid of it. That is short of a Meese engine grenade experience but even if that happens I know that I'll still try to rebuild it or find another engine.

It's certainly true that there are a lot of "good deals" to be found on K12GTs and if you're in the market for a ride it's unfortunate that this bike is overlooked because of all the bad misinformation on the bikes reliability. I put the blame on both BMW Corporate and most BMW dealers. This bike never received the support it should have from the beginning as it went through it's teething pains and those of use that bought new were left paying the price. Only now does it seem that BMW is willing to cover repairs for defects that we discovered the hard way and most of us repaired at our own expense. Shame on BMW but this is not enough for me to want to give up my K12GT.

To all my fellow K12GT riders, keep riding and smiling!

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It is a helluva fine ride. 150bhp is a good thing. It looks great, to the point that people still stop me and say they want one. Mine is getting three of those BMW sponsored "campaigns" as we speak, all BMW paid.

I'll stay with it as long as the money holds out. If the final drive craps out, there will be a bonfire.

It's a big, heavy, powerful, complicated beast. I love that it takes a careful hand to ride it well.

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I'll stay with it as long as the money holds out. If the final drive craps out, there will be a bonfire.
After two short months of ownership, I bailed on my '07 K12 when my money and patience ran out.
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 17th, 2015, 10:45 am
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After a 10 year break from riding, I took a chance and purchased a '06 GT in the spring of '06. It was a bit of a gamble since I didn't have the chance to ride one before purchase. Compelling reasons for selecting the model were performance, style, and brand reputation. I had a hunch the comfort would be acceptable.

There was some concern as this was a first year model of a high performance bike with limited market potential. That is never a good combination.

I flat out love the bike. It required some small changes to dial it in to my tastes and comfort (windscreen, seat), but overall it lived up to expectations. The power is exceptional and makes the bike a true pleasure to ride. Nearly 10 years later it still turns heads at every intersection.

There have been problems. As noted above, this was not unexpected:
  • Fuel mapping (warranty)
  • Airbox design (warranty)
  • Cam chain (I went APE immediately, jump guard under warranty)
  • Brake pad wires (still working on this)
  • Fuel level detector (warranty)
  • Center stand (dealer assisted, but it went down at a gas station an broke the screen and scratched up some plastic)
  • Rear wheel flange (warranty)
  • Rear shock preload motor (fixed myself)
There were some other factory recall items that I don't remember at the moment.

This bike was a great choice. My biggest regret/concern is they quite making this model, and I don't care for the styling of the K1600. When this bike dies it will be a sad day!

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When this bike dies it will be a sad day!
Tell you what....I'll let you buy mine as a backup

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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 20th, 2015, 7:42 pm
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2007 GT still runs great, yes there has been work and when the ESA went I opted for Ohlins, I found I never changed the ESA anyway. Only reason I am selling, I am retiring and will be driving around with the wife and the bike won't be used. If I don't sell, I will donate to a good cause.

It is still a rocket ship.

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What campaigns are you having done. I too have an 08 k1200gt that stalls at idle in traffic.
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What campaigns are you having done. I too have an 08 k1200gt that stalls at idle in traffic.
Not sure there is a campaign for that, although they may update your software. If your airbox/idle control valve hasn't been replaced that may help.

Fueling at idle/low throttle is not a K12GT strong point.

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I am considering a 2007 K12GT with 21k miles. This will be my first BMW. Currently riding a Harley Touring. I've offered $7000 and the dealer seems agreeable. After reading this thread I'm not sure I want to go through with the purchase. Is the 2007 K1200GT a reliable model?

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I am considering a 2007 K12GT with 21k miles. This will be my first BMW. Currently riding a Harley Touring. I've offered $7000 and the dealer seems agreeable. After reading this thread I'm not sure I want to go through with the purchase. Is the 2007 K1200GT a reliable model?
There is no easy answer to your question. Like anything, it is 100% reliable until something breaks.

My 2007 K1200GT has been reliable from a riding standpoint. It has not left me stranded anywhere, and I have ridden it all over the country. I just rode from So Cal to Kentucky and back in less than a week, just before Thanksgiving.

That said, I have experienced expensive repairs. Maintenance is expensive. Parts are expensive. It is not an easy motorcycle to work on. Harley-Davidson motorcycles are not cheap to maintain, either. They may be easier to work on than a K1200GT, however. I don't really know - having never worked on a Harley.

One issue is that people who are happy with their K1200GTs won't post in the forums, so it is hard to know how big a problem can be. People complain about final drive failures, for example, but it is unclear whether it is widespread issue or affects only a small fraction of owners. It is probably somewhere in between.

I hope this helps.
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