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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old May 9th, 2006, 3:58 pm Thread Starter
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Some (Hopefully) Different Observations

I agree with a lot of the comments and reviews regarding the new K12GT.
Here are some other issues/observations, in no particular order.

The broad, progressive engagement point of the clutch is marvelous.

Some of the handling prowess must be attributable to the Metzeler Z6 tires.

Anybody else have a tough time getting this thing up on the center stand?
There is no good leverage point to grab.

The "snatchiness" at low rpm/speed can be mitigated by taking most of the freeplay out of the throttle cable.

With the windsreen in the low position, wind hits me in the neck.
With the windscreen in the high position, wind hits me in the forehead.
I am 6'3", Cee Baileys here I come.

The handgrips are too hard.

The horn button has almost doubled in thickness.

Shifting is so smooth that my clumsy left foot finds it hard not to bypass neutral.

I am glad to have a shift indicator, as 4th, 5th and 6th feel the same at legal speeds.

It takes a lot of willpower to ride this thing at legal speeds.

In breaking the bike in, I have not exceeded 7K rpms - is there a new country waiting for me?

My dealer told me that they drain the oil out of the little, clear sight tube. Can this be right? How about a pump?

Acceleration on this thing is outrageous. I pulled around a car at 70mph in fifth and was doing felony-level speed by the time I cleared his front bumper.

All in all - I love this bike.
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Anybody else have a tough time getting this thing up on the center stand?
There is no good leverage point to grab.
The rear passenger handhold is where I stead the bike. Step on the lever and she comes right up. Effortless in comparison to the LT.

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With the windsreen in the low position, wind hits me in the neck.
With the windscreen in the high position, wind hits me in the forehead.
I am 6'3", Cee Baileys here I come.
That's why aftermarket windshield makers exist, right?

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The handgrips are too hard.
I don't understand this one. I think they are the same exact grips as on other BMWs. My LT has the same grips.

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The horn button has almost doubled in thickness.
I don't know about this, but the horn definitely is whimpy.

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I am glad to have a shift indicator, as 4th, 5th and 6th feel the same at legal speeds.

It takes a lot of willpower to ride this thing at legal speeds.
Yep, I agree. I found that I did need to look at the indicator to know what gear I was in. There's only about a 700 RPM difference between 5th and 6th, and between 4th, 5th, and 6th didn't seem to feel much of a difference either.

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Acceleration on this thing is outrageous. I pulled around a car at 70mph in fifth and was doing felony-level speed by the time I cleared his front bumper.
Measured in nanoseconds.

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All in all - I love this bike.
Me too!

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Anybody else have a tough time getting this thing up on the center stand?
There is no good leverage point to grab.
I thought so too until I figured out just lightly hold the passenger rail, and really stand on the lever with all your weight.

And yes, the windshield needs to be at least 2" taller. Don't really about the handgrips or the horn button, but the sometimes I have to look at the indicator to see if I actually shifted between 3-4.

Acceceleration - hmmmm, yes, and I've been good and haven't really seen the potential above 7K. Even so, an agressive pass leads to extra legal speeds instantly!

I think the seat sucks. Great for attack mode, but lacking in cruise mode. And for me, its a bit taller than my old RT.

p.s. Did you got the first one at Scottsdale BMW?

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Chris,

Indeed I did.
Picked it up Thursday afternoon.
Rode back to work and then home.
I took Friday off and rode Wickenberg, Yarnell, Prescott, Williams, Sedona and home.
I have 500 miles on it now and have an appointment for 1st service on Saturday morning.
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Chris,

Indeed I did.
Picked it up Thursday afternoon.
Rode back to work and then home.
I took Friday off and rode Wickenberg, Yarnell, Prescott, Williams, Sedona and home.
I have 500 miles on it now and have an appointment for 1st service on Saturday morning.
Got mine Saturday - Victory had it in Turs but wanted to put it on display for at least a day

Sunday - Roosevelt - Globe - Winkleman - Superior

477 miles - Service scheduled for Thurs!

Its a fun machine...what will we do with the potential in that motor beyond 7K

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Anybody else have a tough time getting this thing up on the center stand?
There is no good leverage point to grab.

At 5' 8" the passenger grab rail too high; I grab the lower frame in the triangle area, put 175 lbs on the centerstand, pull on the frame and up she comes easily. Try this method I think you will like it.

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I grab the lower frame in the triangle area, put 175 lbs on the centerstand, pull on the frame and up she comes easily..
Everybody does what works for them

I use the left grip, my right knee and the the side pillion grip to steady the bike while I make sure that both feet of the stand are contacting the ground. From there, no lifting/pulling required at all. Just stand on the lever. I'm 5"9 165lbs.

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Chris,

Thank you!
I'll give your method a try.
I'm 6'3" - 230lbs.
Should be a piece of cake.
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Yes, the oil sight tube is how the oil is drained. Yes, a pump could be used but I just go have a cup of coffee while it is draining.

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A Few More Observations

As the brakes bed in, they become even more progressive. No "light switch" application like my '04 R1150.

The 1-2, 2-3 clunk disappears if you only pull the clutch lever to about 1/3 of its travel. Any theories? Full pull over-centers pressure plate, causing drag on input shaft? Quicker shift from shorter pull keeps rotating gears/shafts at matched speed?

Any oil consumption during break-in? I have almost 600 miles of constant acceleration / closed throttle deceleration. If anything were to cause oil to be pulled past the rings and burned, this kind of riding should do it. The oil level remains as delivered.

Low speed handling is much improved over my RT. Lower center of gravity makes this bike feel much lighter than it is.

My feet, with the seat in the high position, are slightly higher and rearward from the RT position. Slight forward lean and bars at low position is different, but comfortable.

Gear drive (you can hear it) starter should help maximize battery life.

Where does the heat go? It was 98F on my ride home last night, I felt no heated air flow, even though the fan cycled on every time I stopped. By the way , the ECM raised the idle about 200 rpm, coincident with the fan cycling - clever, increase coolant circulation and increase charging voltage.

Driveline lash seems much reduced from the RT, but may increase with wear.

The front wheel inflation inlet in the spoke is clever, no more fighting with the disk.

I inadvertently took off in second gear yesterday - didn't notice until I went to shift and realized I was going 50 mph.
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