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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 2019, 4:59 pm Thread Starter
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Just signed up t the forum after spending a few hours reading. I am planning on making a purchase this month and am looking for some advise/experience. I have been looking at K bikes for the last 4 months. I had a local dealer outside of Philly let me test drive a 2003 in the fall while my Vintage r90 was getting it's yearly inspection. I was amazed in the performance and was bitten. The weather quickly got cold and some indecision crept in. Now several months have passed and I have moved onto looking at a few other (newer) bikes. A dealer has 2 in question> Bike 1 is a 2009 K1300gt w/29,000 miles (recent service including new rear tire ) and all the options vs. Bike #2 2008 K1200gt w/1850 miles (yes 1850); no ESA, but everything else. Is there any reason to spend over an additional $1000-$1500 for Bike #1?

I haven't ridden in years; have kept the r90 as a garage queen. I plan on this being a night/weekend bike with local suburban riding mixed in with weekend rides to the shore(100 miles). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I find the wealth of knowledge in forums to be irreplaceable!
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 2019, 6:25 pm
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I found that when dealing with K bikes, you should get the latest one you can find. The stalling and air box issues were fixed in the 1300GT's. Also a 10 year old bike with only 1800 miles is another issue. Sitting for 10 years is not good for a K bike.

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Thanks for the quick feedback!!! My hesitancy is that I have already been talked up from spending ~ $3k for a 2003; to ~$6000 for the 2007. I can probably get the 2009 for $7000(there is another dealer who has a very similar 2009 w/24K); but $6000 was a stretch. Stay away from the 1200gt's?
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I always tell people that ask about my 2006 K1200GT that its the WORST bike BMW ever engineered.
That being said I love it. Its just the right size for sport-touring. Has GREAT power and feels right. Mine now has a low 88k miles.

I would go with the '09 since even 29k miles is still a low mileage BMW.

Now I'm sure you have read up on the reason I said these were the worst engineered bikes.
Transmission
Cam chain guard
Cam chain tensioner
final drive drive shaft lube
fuel sensor
air box
and on and on....

But get those all sorted and its a good bike.
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Now I'm sure you have read up on the reason I said these were the worst engineered bikes.
Transmission
Cam chain guard
Cam chain tensioner
final drive drive shaft lube
fuel sensor
air box
and on and on....

But get those all sorted and its a good bike.
The 2009 and 2010 corrected all of the issues you list. The final drive lube is something you would do on any BMW when you change the gear oil. I bought my 2009 K13GT with 10K miles on it. Because of the low miles, I had two issues. My final drive outer oil seal started to weep oil and the cam chain guide was replaced (under extended warranty). Other than that, I have 31,000 miles on the bike and it is running fine.

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If the major concerns have been addressed I'd get the '09. Those miles on it are just warm up miles.

Let us know what you decided on.
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Shop more. I wouldn't settle for a choice between 2 bikes. There are lots of these Beemers around and you are in a highly populated area so you should have a dozen to choose from just locally. Go look on Craigs List and everywhere else. I live in Seattle, WA but ended up buying my '08 K1200S from a guy in Minneapolis. It's how I found the bike I wanted with the features I wanted from the kind of guy I was looking for (intelligent, adult, graduate engineer). Don't buy bikes owned by kids. Millennials are the 1st Gen. of Americans that the able bodied grown men can't change a fucking tire.

Get as recent model year as you can find. The 2nd Gen. K-Bike was a bit of a learning curve for Beemer and there were issues with the Clutch, Startup oil pressure, Brakes, Gas Gauge, and more. Most of this was worked out by the time the 1300s came out. The model ended in 2016 and would be the one I'd look for. The present 6 cylinder bikes are a completely different machine.

I chose to go bare bones for my choice of features and don't regret it 8 years later. The more complex the features, the more trouble you have. ABS is an excellent development and BMW has led the way but Servo Assist (Power Brakes) on a motorcycle is bullshit. It fails and is a fortune to fix. So is the Ride Control crap. The associated shocks are complicated, fail, and also a fortune to fix. I'm running a pair of Ohlins; best suspension in the world.

Notice there are 3 models to choose from; S, R, and GT. The S is full fairing sport touring. The R is the street fighter version and never sold well. The GT is the luggage truck of the bunch and sold quite well. The disadvantage of buying a GT is you will miss out on owning one of the fastest bikes to ever roll across a showroom floor. The GT is detuned compared to the others and of course much heavier. With a little work, these bikes beat Hyabusas. That's worth experiencing and is why I bought an S. They are scary fast.
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The GT is the luggage truck of the bunch and sold quite well. The disadvantage of buying a GT is you will miss out on owning one of the fastest bikes to ever roll across a showroom floor. The GT is detuned compared to the others and of course much heavier.
Have you ever ridden a GT? I can light the rear tire on mine with ease (always makes the DSTC light up).

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Have you ever ridden a GT? I can light the rear tire on mine with ease (always makes the DSTC light up).
Yeah mine is quite slow too.
Two up riding with full luggage, tank bag and top case cruising at 120 is really slow.

My top speed single with bags though was 140. So yeah the GT is a sandbag with wheels (joking)

Its a great touring bike with plenty of power.
I'd suggest a later 1300 also. Mine is the first year 1200 and I have had problems that are all worked out now. Still a great bike.
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Yeah what others have said get the 1300. I own the 2010 and ride two up most of the time. I've not had any problems with the bike in 53,000+ miles. BTW 120mph two up is just coasting at ease. It may be detuned a bit but I regularly chase down sport bikes in the hills. Have fun.
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