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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:55 am Thread Starter
 
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Shift irregularities

I'm always open to the fact that I'm very far from perfect and operator error has a significant degree of probability here but, do ya'll notice one or both of the following?

1) From a rolling stop in 1st or from a complete stop, under quick acceleration the upshift from 1st to 2nd finds nuetral. This has happened about 5 times. It's odd, because it seems easier to find N in a 6000rpm shift from 1st than at idle!

2) From nuetral, at a stop, it won't downshift into 1st. If let the bike roll a bit and blip the throttle while letting out the clutch and then try for first it will go or upshifting to second and then down to 1st works. This has happened about 10 times.

I'm at 192 miles on the clock.

Edit - one other thing -- the clickity-clickity and rear brake pedal vibration when hitting the front brake is the "integratied braking mechaism" I'm assuming? Just never felt/heard it before. Kinda funny.

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I'll offer some of my observations, personal as well as from other riders on here:
  1. You're low miles, this will improve over time. Breakin as well as user interface ability seem to both play a role here.
  2. As much as you think you should, don't grab a "whole" handful of clutch, especially between 1 & 2, 2 & 3. Instead, grab just a little squeeze. Seems to make for a much smoother shift.
  3. Finally, the shifter linkage is adjustable. A little searching on here will lead you to the right thread for this topic.

Best of luck and enjoy the new ride.

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I'm always open to the fact that I'm very far from perfect and operator error has a significant degree of probability here but, do ya'll notice one or both of the following?

1) From a rolling stop in 1st or from a complete stop, under quick acceleration the upshift from 1st to 2nd finds nuetral. This has happened about 5 times. It's odd, because it seems easier to find N in a 6000rpm shift from 1st than at idle!

2) From nuetral, at a stop, it won't downshift into 1st. If let the bike roll a bit and blip the throttle while letting out the clutch and then try for first it will go or upshifting to second and then down to 1st works. This has happened about 10 times.

I'm at 192 miles on the clock.

Edit - one other thing -- the clickity-clickity and rear brake pedal vibration when hitting the front brake is the "integratied braking mechaism" I'm assuming? Just never felt/heard it before. Kinda funny.

Gracias!
Problem 1, only happens when I do a "pussyfoot" shift.
Problem 2. Yes. I complained in a previou s thread. Told the dealer, they said just roll it a bit with the clutch out. One other poster here mentioned that its the way the gears are cut. For me not much of a problem.....

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Problem 1, only happens when I do a "pussyfoot" shift.
Problem 2. Yes. I complained in a previou s thread. Told the dealer, they said just roll it a bit with the clutch out. One other poster here mentioned that its the way the gears are cut. For me not much of a problem.....

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Problem 1, yep. It could just be the old commitment issues coming back.

Pussyfoot is that different than a camel toe?
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Pussyfoot is that different than a camel toe?
2 different beast. Ass far as I know they don't have a "ratemypussyfoot.com".........

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I'm always open to the fact that I'm very far from perfect and operator error has a significant degree of probability here but, do ya'll notice one or both of the following?

1) From a rolling stop in 1st or from a complete stop, under quick acceleration the upshift from 1st to 2nd finds nuetral. This has happened about 5 times. It's odd, because it seems easier to find N in a 6000rpm shift from 1st than at idle!

2) From nuetral, at a stop, it won't downshift into 1st. If let the bike roll a bit and blip the throttle while letting out the clutch and then try for first it will go or upshifting to second and then down to 1st works. This has happened about 10 times.

I'm at 192 miles on the clock.

Edit - one other thing -- the clickity-clickity and rear brake pedal vibration when hitting the front brake is the "integratied braking mechaism" I'm assuming? Just never felt/heard it before. Kinda funny.

Gracias!
This happen to me a few time... When you quick shift, you get neutral... :o When you try to find neutral, you go from 1 to 2 and 2 to 1...

No big deal... Just deal with it.
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I'm always open to the fact that I'm very far from perfect and operator error has a significant degree of probability here but, do ya'll notice one or both of the following?

1) From a rolling stop in 1st or from a complete stop, under quick acceleration the upshift from 1st to 2nd finds nuetral. This has happened about 5 times. It's odd, because it seems easier to find N in a 6000rpm shift from 1st than at idle!

2) From nuetral, at a stop, it won't downshift into 1st. If let the bike roll a bit and blip the throttle while letting out the clutch and then try for first it will go or upshifting to second and then down to 1st works. This has happened about 10 times.

I'm at 192 miles on the clock.

Edit - one other thing -- the clickity-clickity and rear brake pedal vibration when hitting the front brake is the "integratied braking mechaism" I'm assuming? Just never felt/heard it before. Kinda funny.

Gracias!
8000 miles of mixed riding and I have missed (believe it or not) 1-2 shift once, and no other shifts at all. This coming from a guy that logged 25k on the K12RS and 14k on the LT, with regularly missed shifts, especially on the RS. So I am no master at all I just think the GT transmission is that much better. I would play with the linkage were I you.

Get used to the clunk, it's trademarked, I think.

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8000 miles of mixed riding and I have missed (believe it or not) 1-2 shift once, and no other shifts at all. This coming from a guy that logged 25k on the K12RS and 14k on the LT, with regularly missed shifts, especially on the RS. So I am no master at all I just think the GT transmission is that much better. I would play with the linkage were I you.

Get used to the clunk, it's trademarked, I think.

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My left ankle is fused from one of those straight tequila nights when I was younger and dumber. I find the GT is the easiest shifting bike since I rode Harley, where, if you could stomp, you could shift. On the LT, especially when riding spirited, I'd miss a shift every now and then. The GT is like an extension of the body.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old Oct 24th, 2006, 7:14 pm
 
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The neutral into first problem isn't that uncommon on the BMW's I've owned. A simple fix is to just preload the shifter. Rest your foot on it as you pull the clutch in, it will drop right into gear. Once you're used to it it's very natural and gives you first everytime.
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