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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:09 pm Thread Starter
 
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Two up and gear too much?

It's probably no secret that the RT is the sacred cow at bmwsporttouring.com and there's an interesting arguement over how trully two-up capable the GT is because of it's difference in "permissible weight" of 992 pounds which supposed leaves only 370 pounds available for rider, passenger, clothes, gear, and then how do you pack for your trip...

370 pounds is certainly easy to hit between rider and pillion and then you've got the top case and side case that you've got to assume are going to be full. That's got to hit 70 pounds pounds right there. Scottie and I together are about 300 pounds so I can see that really easy, and really quick we can be easy past 992 pounds.

So my question is does it frigging matter and why, how and what can you do? Opinions, thoughts, ideas?

I'm not worried, just curious.
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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:18 pm
 
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It's probably no secret that the RT is the sacred cow at bmwsporttouring.com and there's an interesting arguement over how trully two-up capable the GT is because of it's difference in "permissible weight" of 992 pounds which supposed leaves only 370 pounds available for rider, passenger, clothes, gear, and then how do you pack for your trip...

370 pounds is certainly easy to hit between rider and pillion and then you've got the top case and side case that you've got to assume are going to be full. That's got to hit 70 pounds pounds right there. Scottie and I together are about 300 pounds so I can see that really easy, and really quick we can be easy past 992 pounds.

So my question is does it frigging matter and why, how and what can you do? Opinions, thoughts, ideas?

I'm not worried, just curious.
brian
you are wrong about your numbers
i'm going to go search for them
but...
you are off by over 100 pounds

i'll be back
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post #3 of 26 (permalink) Old Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:21 pm
 
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i found that BMW page you are quoting
but, those figures are off
the figure has been quote 100 pounds higher elsewhere

i'll find it
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i found that BMW page you are quoting
but, those figures are off
the figure has been quote 100 pounds higher elsewhere

i'll find it
Greg,

You found a BMW reference page that confirms the figures on the OP and you claim the the BMW figures are wrong? :wtf

Brian
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i found that BMW page you are quoting
but, those figures are off
the figure has been quote 100 pounds higher elsewhere

i'll find it
I coulda sworn I saw it higher elsewhere too. Actually, found it on the international site:

Edit - Found these two links:

RT - http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/b...00rt_data.html

GT -
http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/b...00gt_data.html

Payload (with standard equipment) 238kg (523 lbs) on the GT which is a little more than the RT...

Am I reading that right?

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I coulda sworn I saw it higher elsewhere too. Actually, found it on the international site:

Edit - Found these two links:

RT - http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/b...00rt_data.html

GT -
http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/b...00gt_data.html

Payload (with standard equipment) 238kg (523 lbs) on the GT which is a little more than the RT...

Am I reading that right?
yes...
you ARE reading that right
523 pounds IS correct
i ALSO have the 370 pound PRINTOUT from the US BMW site...
i've NEVER looked at it before
but....
it is wrong
i can assure you

my '96 R1100RT carried over 430 pounds when fully "WET"
we both know that one of the selling features of the GT is being able to carry 100 pounds more than the FJR

hmmmmmmm
i have NO idea why that "TYPO" is still around
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Greg,

You found a BMW reference page that confirms the figures on the OP and you claim the the BMW figures are wrong? :wtf

Brian
i'm actually shocked that the US BMW site is wrong
OF COURSE it's wrong
no bike carries so little.... 370 pounds... is ridiculous
the 523 pounds is the right number
as i said above...
my '96 R1100RT carried 420 pounds PLUS when "WET"
and the FJR carries almost 430 pounds "WET"
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post #8 of 26 (permalink) Old Nov 3rd, 2006, 5:38 am
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Greg's numbers are correct. Payload is 523 lbs.

I had to visit this topic in June and my research indicated the same. In fact, "look in your manual".

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I just looked at the owner's manual for a 2007 GT and gross weight is listed as 1146lbs.

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post #10 of 26 (permalink) Old Nov 3rd, 2006, 9:50 am
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hey guys. I can't check on my own KGT right now but I thought I saw weights and figures on a decal under my seat somewhere. Maybe I dreamt it but can someone confirm and if it wasn't a dream, what the posted max weights are?

Thanks.
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