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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 2007, 9:58 am Thread Starter
 
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Avon 55/56 after 600 miles

I have been able to run the new Avons for about 600 miles both in dry and wet. They replaced a set of Z6's.

The Avons ride different than the Z6s. It is hard to really describe the feeling. The bike seems to "fall" over into the corners whereas the Z6s required a bit more effort. Harder cornering feels secure and planted. In the wet the Avon is FAR superior - no wiggling and I have felt just as much traction as if it were dry. There seems to be no discernible difference on the slab. On a steel grid bridge deck the Avon does wiggle slightly were the Z6 didn't move. Obviously I have no idea about millage.

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So far you're experiencing the great feeling any new tire will give you compared to the worn tires you were used to. IMO you really can't compare fairly unless you would put on a new set of another brand right now and ride....apples to apples so to speak. I just had the 55/56's put on my GT and I agree, they feel great....similar to Pilot Powers as I recall. Wouldn't it be nice if we had the luxury of trying out a bunch of different tires all in the same day? But then we wouldn't know about mileage....oh well...

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Brian,

I had planned on installing the 55/56 tires until this bloody heart attack got in the way and I'm still planning on it in a few weeks. Question is: do the 55/56 have a special "weight-specific" model for the GT like the Metzler and Bridgestone with their special designations, eg. "UU" on the Bridgestone?

If not, have you noticed any uber speed "squirreliness" as reported with the wrong weight-designated Metzlers we've heard about on other threads?

Want to be sure I end up with the right tires from the get go. Thanks!

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So far you're experiencing the great feeling any new tire will give you compared to the worn tires you were used to.
Not necessarily. I replaced a fully-worn BT020 Radial rear with an ME880 rear on my LT, and the bike actually felt worse with the new rear tire on. They were out of the BT020, even though I specifically asked them before riding down. I then had to ride 120 miles to the next BMW dealer to get a front ME880 to match, and once again, the bike felt worse than with a worn-out Avon Radial front on it.

Sure, new tires are usually more rounded and feel better than old, worn tires, but tire construction and cross-section also plays a role.

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Brian,

I had planned on installing the 55/56 tires until this bloody heart attack got in the way and I'm still planning on it in a few weeks. Question is: do the 55/56 have a special "weight-specific" model for the GT like the Metzler and Bridgestone with their special designations, eg. "UU" on the Bridgestone?

If not, have you noticed any uber speed "squirreliness" as reported with the wrong weight-designated Metzlers we've heard about on other threads?

Want to be sure I end up with the right tires from the get go. Thanks!
I will check on that and see what I can find. I assume that is may be printed on the sidewall somewhere. In all fairness, I just called my dealer had them ordered and installed - we never discussed the weight issue.

As to uber-speed, I have had them only to 90 mph so far with no ill effects.

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Thanks my friend.

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Please do follow up with a post about the mileage you get out of the Avon's. I burned up the stock B'stone in 3200 miles and replaced them w/ the Z6's. Having gone through 10 sets on my last bike I know and like the Z6's, but know that the rear is only good for about 4K. I'm really hoping that the Avon's get better mileage...and handle at least as well as the Z6's.
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As I posted in an earlier thread...I just got back from a 4,200 trip. I had the dealer put on Avon 55/56 tires (because of this site). Great tire for all the reason's people have posted. But after 4k my rear tire wear bars are showing. On the Z'6S I got 4.5k. I think I will go back to the Conti-Road Attacks. I got 7k with "darn near" the grip.

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As I posted in an earlier thread...I just got back from a 4,200 trip. I had the dealer put on Avon 55/56 tires (because of this site). Great tire for all the reason's people have posted. But after 4k my rear tire wear bars are showing. On the Z'6S I got 4.5k. I think I will go back to the Conti-Road Attacks. I got 7k with "darn near" the grip.
I'm happy to hear that. I've got a set of the Conti's now that are getting unbelievable mileage. Not even wearing...

...sitting in my motorcycle closet.

The thread looks kewl, I can't wait to put them on.

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I have a bit of an update on the 55/56's

I am now @ 1500 miles on these tires and I have noticed a few things that I had not experienced on the Z6s.

I feel that the bike is affected more or at least differently in crosswinds. It is not an unstable feeling, but the bike does move underneath me with less wind. Note, it does NOT move MORE, it just does it with less wind.

The bike is easier to heel over in corners. It seems as though they WANT to be in a turn, and at times have felt more stable turning than on the slab. Less force is required, and the rate of lean is faster. That said, it is easy to over lean and tighten the turn - but I am learning to compensate. I think this has to do with the profile of the front tire. It is more round than the Z6. On the Z6 (prior to the squaring off) the front had more of a peak in the center and then had a steeper angle as it approached the sidewalls. The Avon has a much more uniform round shape. It is also this shape that I attribute to the increased affect of wind mentioned above.

I have also had more time in wet conditions and at higher speeds in the wet. They are VERY surefooted! I also noticed significant side spray off the front. I never saw this with the Z6.

My wear pattern is very uniform. At this time it is impossible to tell how much more life they have in them. It was at this point with the Z6s that I began to see the first signs of squaring off. There are no signs of this with the Avons. They are running with 37/44 psi with just me (a svelte and sexy 225 lbs) and an average of 15lbs of gear. My standard ESA setting is 1+luggage Normal mode.

Overall I have liked this tier more than the Z6s and if they continue to perform as they have, I will get them for the next set.

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