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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 2006, 1:49 pm Thread Starter
 
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V1 the best?

I don't know much about radar detectors, but can I safely assume (from all of the posts that I've seen) that the Valentine-1 is the preferred choice among sport-bike riders? Is it simply the best one on the market, or the most bang for the buck, or what? What makes it such a widely chosen unit, and if I were to buy a radar detector, would the V1 be the best one for me to buy to use on my K1200S?

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 2006, 2:03 pm
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Perhaps...

There's some other threads on this topic if you use the search function. I owned the V1 for many years in my auto and it saved me from everything except an air patrol which cost me nearly $300.00

I've heard that the controls on the passport 8500 are more user friendly but I've never owned one. If you can afford the V1 I would suggest you get it and the remote display. If you're on a budget, get the passport and I think you 'll be pretty well protected.

I"m intersted in your mounting solution when you get it set up. POst back and let us know your decision and a pic to show us your install.

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I just returned from a 1200+ mile trip. I used my Bel Express & my buddy used a V1.
My Bel came w/ suction cup clip (which worked very well on my shield "02 K12RS), helmet speaker, and runs on 2 AA batteries. I remember paying approx $200 a few years back. It covers all bands and lazar front & rear. The V1...he had to have an adaptor installed so that he can plug it in, had to purchase and install a mount, didn't have the audio set up thus couldn't hear any bleeps. (I hate to think about what he paid for everything including installation.)
Both radars went off at the same points, neither received a summons for speeding and were above the speed limit for a majority of the trip.

I know that the V1 is very popular, however I extremely happy with my Bel...I use it in my cage and on my bike without any changes except plugging in my helmet speaker.
Again, no expensive mounts, expensive audio, wiring or expensive install.

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It's a personal thing. The guys that have the other radar units like them and the guys that have V-1's swear by them.
Yes, the V-1 should come with an audio connection without having to buy another box but that's OK. The nice thing about the V-1 is that it can be upgraded as the LEO's start using a different type of radar like they do in Nevada, (POP). This way you'll never have to buy another unit for the rest of your life either for driving or riding.
They are more expensive but since I've already paid for it, it's been money well spent. That thing has saved me tons of money so far.
I use mine up in the Mt's with the sportbikers and it works fairly well considering that there aren't many straight aways.

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You might as well have asked who's religion is better, or what oil is best to use.

The Passport X50 and the V1 are equal in nearly every category, but one. The V1 has directional arrows that indicate where the signal is coming from. And the V1 has a bogey counter, which will tell you how many distinct signals are hitting you (some cops hide in radar saturated areas like around banks and supermarkets to get you by surprise). However, these features come at a cost. The V1 is $100 more expensive than the X50, and if you plan on adding the V1's audio to a helmet speaker or intercom, plan on spending another $49 (but you can crack open the case and install a jack yourself for less if you want).

No matter which radar detector you pick, I recommend some weather-resistant (weather-proof) container for it. I just lost my X50 this past weekend to a little rain. I recommend the LegalSpeeding radar cover. Aaron makes it for both the X50 or the V1, so once you pick your poison, you can get the right radar cover. More info at: http://www.legalspeeding.com/products.htm#RC

Since you are mounting this on a K1200S, you have the round brake and clutch master cylinders. This means you can use the Radar Mount from Pirate's Lair. Jerry has them on the site and they fit both the X50, V1, or pretty much anything that will mount to a flat surface. More infor at: http://piratesk12site.net/PLradarmount.htm

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I've heard that the guys with the V1 are compensating for something their missing or came up short on.

Me, I have a Beltronics RX65.

1 vs 65

Need I say more?

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I don't know much about radar detectors, but can I safely assume (from all of the posts that I've seen) that the Valentine-1 is the preferred choice among sport-bike riders?....
That's only because they're the only one's yapping about it!

In tests the V1 and Escort 8500 x50 are neck and neck... and the best. A bit better sensitivity for the Escort and some extra features on the V1.

I use the Escort and love it. IMHO ("H" is for humble), when you get a "hit" from the detector the only thing you care about is what type, X, K, Ka and if necessary to slow down. The V1 feature of letting you know which direction sounds good and, to a very small extent is nice, but not worth a whole bunch in real world application.

I second Jeff's recommendation for the waterproof radar box (Hoon Hardware) and I like Legal Speeding's H.A.R.D. system.

I have my RD permanently mounted with the H.A.R.D. trasmitter inside the protective box. The power is switched with the bike. Just mount up, turn on the receiver in the helmet and go.

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The Beltronic's RX65 beat both the Escort 8500 and the V1 in radar detection.
The V1 has better laser detection, but with laser, once you've picked it up, it's too late.

The V1 used to be the best of the best, but the rest have now caught up and surpassed in some cases.

Do your research - opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

http://www.radarbusters.com/email/e-.../June_2004.htm


For a nice, easy, economical mounting solution - get the $45 mount from Jerry the Pirate that slips over the clutch res. Works fine..lasts a long time.

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The really cool part is that radarbuster.com sells the other two. Of course they will come in higher. Would you promote a detector you cant sell?

As far as the arrows and bogey counter, you will most likely hear that the people that dismiss their use don't have it (or have the ability to sell a detector with it). Do I think its worth the price difference?? Maybe... If you travel the same roads the feature is great. You can tell when there is a cop sitting in an area with multiple door openers. In a new area it is not as useful.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the $100 dollar difference is a one time cost. When you upgrade the V1 (and throw out the whatever and buy another) you will still end up with the bonus features of the V1 and the upgrade cost is less then the competitors.

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The Beltronic's RX65 beat both the Escort 8500 and the V1 in radar detection.....

Do your research - opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

http://www.radarbusters.com/email/e-.../June_2004.htm

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John,

Admittedly I haven't researched Radar Detectors in the last 6 months and so, based on your rather rude metaphor, I went ahead and reviewed of the current state of the market.

I would agree that the Beltronics is an excellent value. I would prefer to use sources for reference that are not so closely tied to the sale of a particular product. In the case of "radarbusters", they offer free shipping on the Beltronics, most likely, because that product has a higher margin. Also the language of the site is clearly biased toward the Bel product line.

I suggest you re-read the review on the Bel unit and take a look at the ratings detail. The Bel "ties" the Escort, it does not "beat" it.

Other review sites seem to acknowledge the Escort as the industry standard and do, generally, give the Bel unit high marks for approaching, or equalling, the performance of the Escort.

All that said, if I were buying a Radar Detector again, I would seriously consider the Bel unit, especially if the price difference was significantly in favor of the Bel.

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