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Escort X50 false alarms

I have my X50 wired directly to the battery via their Direct Wire Cord.

I keep getting false alarms in places where there is not even electricity, let alone radar. For example, on a deserted forest service road. All of a sudden... BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP. Very annoying.

I know that it's not losing and regaining power because at power-up it does this polite little one-beep thing not the HOLY CRAP, THERE'S A COP RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU sound it makes when a real bogey has been detected.

It's set to "Auto" mode btw.

I know somebody else who is using this same exact setup and is having similar problems. He suspects a voltage issue.

Anybody else with a similar problem?

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....I keep getting false alarms in places where there is not even electricity, let alone radar. For example, on a deserted forest service road. All of a sudden... BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP. Very annoying.
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I have the x50. The system will "go off" at times for POP type radar emisions for no apparent reason. POP is microwave technology and I suspect that stray communication related microwaves are picked up.

Occasionally I'll have it "go off" for Laser when it's pretty clear to me that there are no LEO's present. I don't know why this happens, but it seems to happen when there is a lot of glare in front of me, reflected sunlight. I have heard that cameras/video range finders can set off the Laser alert.

Lastly, the x50 will cycle a test every so often. It runs through all of the alerts.

After using it for a couple of years now, the false hits are not bothersome. I use the HARD system so I only get the flash of light, not the sound, and then I look at the the display to determine a response.

Realistically, if it was bothersome, I would try to have it set to only monitor for Ka and K bands. POP and Laser your caught 99% of the time and X band isn't used by LEO's, to the best of my knowledge.

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Thanks for the advice.

I'd really need to have a "good" plan in place because my X50 is mounted under the Tupperware. It's a PITA to have to try various things before figuring out the problem.

Since I turn the thing off during city driving I'm thinking of switching it to Highway mode as well.


Besides the beeps being annoying... because I have the X50 piped into my helmet via an Autocom it has the highest priority. It takes control of the Autocom for a good 10 seconds after the end of the beeps. This means that I can't communicate with my wife and since it beeps repeatedly I may be out of commo for a minute or two. Not good when you're trying to tell her "watch out for the deer" or some other critical commo need.
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Thats why I had to buy one. My buddy has one and he could never tell me to slow down over the two way.

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...I'd really need to have a "good" plan in place because my X50 is mounted under the Tupperware. It's a PITA to have to try various things before figuring out the problem.
For me, the down-side to mounting the unit with the display where it isn't viewable is that when the alarm sounds you won't be able to tell what type of alert it is. Frequently, cars and RV's are employing in radar in cruise control and back-up alerts. You will be getting a large number of alerts that you could safely identify as, say X-Band, and ignore.


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Since I turn the thing off during city driving I'm thinking of switching it to Highway mode as well.
Hmmm. When I'm travelling, the scariest place for me is entering and exiting a town. Those small town LEO's seem to go out of their way to snag even the most careful riders.


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Besides the beeps being annoying... because I have the X50 piped into my helmet via an Autocom it has the highest priority. It takes control of the Autocom for a good 10 seconds after the end of the beeps. This means that I can't communicate with my wife and since it beeps repeatedly I may be out of commo for a minute or two. Not good when you're trying to tell her "watch out for the deer" or some other critical commo need.
We had that for awhile too and the Mrs. about went ballistic. I went the HARD unit and now I get a visual and no noise. Our comm system is not affected and Billy's Daisy is happy!

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I'm one step closer to figuring this out.

When I chop the throttle real hard the detector make the "Laser" noise. It also does it if I really punch it hard. So, basically, any abrupt change in RPM makes it happen. If I smooooothly slow down or pull in the clutch and just use brakes then I get no false alarms.

Guess what happens when you pass a line of cars, top out at 90 or so and then pull back into your lane using engine compression to slow down? WHAAAAAHHHHHH... the detector screams in my ear giving every indication that I will be going to jail very soon. Now that I know what's causing it I'm not freaking out when this happens.

Anyhow...

Should I be suspecting voltage? If not that then what? If so, what can I do?

I thought that I might reprogram the X50 to stop detecting laser but before I go pulling the tupperware off I would really like to have a plan in place in case that does not work.

Is there such thing as an in line voltage regulator?

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Problem solved.

I reprogrammed the unit so that it does not detect laser. I put in about 350 miles this weekend. Not one false alarm.

This came as a result from placing a phone call to Escort. They said that some electronics will set off the laser detection.

I'm one happy speeder now

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