I owe ya'll a final here I think...
After much research and adoo, finally dealing with my realities (I own no cage), I bought some new BMW armor pants (Santiago).
Reasons are, first they are BMW so I trust them in a crash, they are super comfy (as much as jeans) and don't look bad at all so I don't mind wearing them anywhere (they dont' swish when I'm walking either, like my darians did
) Even the little kids seem to be ok with them, I think my old baggy swishy darians scared the kids
they also have hip armor that doesn't bother me, its well-placed.
I crash tested these $400 britches about 2 weeks after I bought them, dropped the LT in dallas on I-20, I didn't know rain turned to ice up there!!
low speed, dumped me and the wife in lane#2 (she wears full BMW armor suit), neither one of us had even a bruise. I fell right onto my hip of course, the pads were just in time (I ain't no spring chicken).
The biggest factor since they passed the armor test, was if I'd be willing to wear them all the time. Thats how I tryed them on, thats how I made the decision ultimately. I was right too, I'd rather wear them than jeans, even in the comfort arena.
just for some comparo's anyways..