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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2011, 9:14 am Thread Starter
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2008 K1200gt - just dead!

Help anyone.. My 2008 K1200GT just went electronically dead (right after the warranty expired!!) One day last week I got on it in the garage and turned on the ignition, and everything lit up just fine. Turned it off and back out of the garage to go riding. In the few seconds it took to get backed out, I tried to start it and when I turned the ignition - nothing. No lights, no display, nothing.
Thought bad battery, bought a new one and put it in and attached the positive lead first and as I touched the negative lead to the battery the display came to life for a few seconds and then out!
After attaching the battery permanently - nothing and I know the battery is good (13.5v disconnected after initial charge).
I have no way to get the bike to the dealer for a diagnostic session.. any hints / thoughts? I am thinking something in the Can can system is shorted or pulling the system down?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2011, 9:33 am
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What position are the bars in when it fails to start/no lights? The reason I ask is that it sounds real similar to what mine did to me. There is a wire that runs up to the ignition switch that seems to control all the electrical. In my case, if I cocked the bars right, it would not start and I had no power. If I straightened the bars, it would work. Turn the bars while it was running and it would die. I had a break in the wire causing the problem. The wire comes up and plugs into the ignition switch. I guess the zip tie was too tight and didn't allow the wire to flex enough and finally after turning the bars so much it just broke.

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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2011, 11:57 am
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I am guessing the electronc ring around the key that controls the whole bike...Has your bike had the recall for the switch? Depending on how long your out of warranty, bmw might be good for the repair, if thats the problem...sounds like it could be though..


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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 2011, 5:57 pm
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Check that ignition wire that runs from the key switch. I had a problem that when I turned the handlebars just right the bike electronics would stop working (dead). I had the bike only 2 weeks, I could have saved lots of time and money in travel expenses if I had known better. Only $20 for that stupid wire back in 08.

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Thanks for the input

I wish I would have checked here again before I had the dealer trailer it back. I don't know what they found but if this is an ignition wire issue that is pretty scary!! It sound very likely and I did not move the bars back and forth much as it was on center stand during my new battery installation and testing.
I have to wait and see what they find and BMW said they might cover the repair (depending on what they find......)!
What the heck would happen if you are tooling down the road and just turn the wrong way and break the connection..??!! I am sure bad things!
I will let you know what I find out from them. I also suspected the key electronics / detection / verification but had no way to test.

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...Keep us posted!


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post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 2011, 12:32 pm
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What the heck would happen if you are tooling down the road and just turn the wrong way and break the connection..??!! I am sure bad things!

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The bike just dies. And in my case since I have the power assist brakes, I have to squeeze really hard on the brakes to stop!

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post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 2011, 1:21 pm Thread Starter
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How many times?

DWSDAD,
Has this happened to you more than the first time (the wire breaking?). I would think this would be all over the websites as a serious caution or large lawsuit against BMW! I would really be an unhappy camper if this turns out to be the problem with my bike and especially if it happened more than once!

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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old Oct 6th, 2011, 3:56 pm Thread Starter
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Shop found the problem

Just talked to the shop and they found the problem. Appearently the ignition assembly is two pieces and the bottom half had come undone from the top half. They appearently just clicked it back together and everything is good to go.
Now why did it come apart?, they had no thoughts on that, and BMW (according to the shop supervisor) would not cover this anyway as it was just a "loose connection". Only out $155 and hope this doesn't come apart again, and preferably not when I am on the road!!
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I would be giving a call to BMW North America on this one. Talk about a liability issue, and the dealer blows it off?
Not good enough!
And to add insult to the situation they charge you 155 bucks? How could this possably be your problem and not something that BMW or the dealer during assembly could have missed?.

.Somebody higher up should be getting an earful!

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