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New here and looking for some help/advice. Am looking to move to a 02 or later K1200RS or GT. I found an RS locally, which is pristine cosmetically, and seems to run great (haven't ridden yet due to weather). It has Piaa lights, elec cruise control, and side bags. New rubber, and maintenance records, will need brake pads soon. Seller is firm at $7,700.00. Is this a decent deal, or a little over priced? Also, is there a big difference between the RS and GT, as far as being more comfortable on longer rides? I have a 94R1100RS and it isn't very comfortable after an hour. I don't want to run into the same problem with a more expensive bike. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I really like the RS, but is it worth it?
 

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I would also say the price is a bit high. I would keep looking for a better deal if the guy doesn't want to negotiate. From what I've seen you could move into a newer year for that money.
A couple of observations,
I had a 93 K1100 RS. Loved the bike, looks and throaty throttle. It wasn't very comfortable for longer rides though. Maybe if we were taller?
I looked at 01/02 models and opted to wait until I could afford an 03 or newer. I felt the riding position of the 01/02 was more inline with the older models. There was no way I wanted to spend a bunch of money on a newer bike and still be in pain. Once I tested an 03+ I knew there was no way I could buy a KRS earlier than that. If you haven't checked out an 03+ I would strongly recommend you do so before buying older.
Difference between the RS and GT, options, bells & whistles, whatever you want to call them. I have an O3 RS and have added the GT options except the power windshield and leg skirts. If you are patient and shop around, as I have, it can be very reasonable to pick up the farkles.
Good luck.
 

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I appreciate the input. I am really trying to talk myself out of the one I looked at. I know I want a better deal, and should probably ride that and a GT before I buy. But I swear that thing spoke to me. I can here it calling me now. :phonecall
 

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Priced a bit high in my opinion, too. Bike was initially around $16,000 new, and didn't come with side cases, so they've added some nice options. I'd have to guess it's very low mileage, but for a bike that's 8 years old, you still have that "age" thing to consider. It's probably calling to you 'cause it wants to get out on the road and the current owner is serverly abusing the bike ... :teeth

GT came out in '03, and is essentially an RS equipped with $2000.00 worth of options for an additional $1000.00 new. 2004 and 2005 models had various options installed or not installed (04 was the last year for the RS, 05 for the brick version of the GT) regardless if it was an RS or GT.

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Seems high in price to me. I just bought my new to me 2002 RS. It had 13k miles on it, new rubber as well, dealer serviced with all the paperwork and the services stamped in the book. Always garage kept and like new. It came with BMW side cases, the BMW tank bag, the BMW locking tail rack and matching BMW tail bag. I paid 6k for mine. I used to have a 99 RS that I loved back in 99, getting on my 2002 was like being reunited with an old friend.

As for the GT, I have owned a 2003 GT as well. I dont know what it was, whether it was the bars on the bike or what but I couldnt get comfortable on it. My RS is alot more comfortable. I am not sure if its the extra weight up high on the GT or again the angle of the bars, but it sure didnt seem to handle nearly as well. I couldtn tell you why but thats my experience. I found the electronic windscrean to be a joke on the GT. Not alot of travel range and the difference between up and down was minimal. The heated seat was nice but the stock GT seat was too soft for me. I prefer the RS's firmer seat. Some of this is personal opinion so take my thoughts with a grain of salt, yours may vary. However if there were a 2003 GT and a 2002 RS sitting side by side, I would choose the RS.
 

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The '02 that's "calling you" sounds just like my bike. I bought my '02 two years ago. It had 2000 miles, and was/is perfect. Not even broken in yet. I paid $8k, and then added bags for another $900 or so. Had all the fluids changed of course, which was ridiculously expensive, so be prepared. And I'm still happily putting more money into it (HID, etc.) to make it "mine". If you offered me $7700 for it today, I wouldn't take it.

Bottom line: The bike that's calling you is worth what you and the seller agree it's worth. If you can't find another you like as much at a better price...


Good luck in your search. It's a great bike; maybe the best ever made.
 

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Thanks for all of the input. I have decided to pass on the $7700 one. I am now actively searching all online classifieds, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. I found an 04 GT in DC with 3k miles for $9750, which seems a decent deal, but my copilot (wife) has restricted me to black or red so she doesn't have to buy a new helmet to match. Thank you for talking me out of over paying for the 02.
 

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You can do better on price

I just got an '02 RS for 6 grand but it wasn't perfect in the cosmetics department. Has a bit of road rash on the starboard side but runs like the wind. Came with no bags and would cost me $800 for a set from the local dealer. The clock just turned 20K. May be on the high side but still gives me goose bumps!
 

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I have decided to pass on the $7700 one. I am now actively searching all online classifieds, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. I found an 04 GT in DC with 3k miles for $9750, QUOTE]

That sounds like an even worse deal. Instead of paying 200 dollars over retail blue book, the 04 is $1000 dollars over retail. Where are you finding such horrible deals? At 9750, you could buy a nice K1200S. I live in Claifornia where bikes bring in a premium since our riding season is year round. I always thought finding a used K1200RS for a good deal was easy, they pop up all the time.
 

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They're out there!

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jasonj84 said:
I have decided to pass on the $7700 one. I am now actively searching all online classifieds, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. I found an 04 GT in DC with 3k miles for $9750, QUOTE]

That sounds like an even worse deal. Instead of paying 200 dollars over retail blue book, the 04 is $1000 dollars over retail. Where are you finding such horrible deals? At 9750, you could buy a nice K1200S. I live in Claifornia where bikes bring in a premium since our riding season is year round. I always thought finding a used K1200RS for a good deal was easy, they pop up all the time.
True. I paid $5k for a pristine (not a scratch) 2000 K1200RS (blue and silver), with every scheduled maintenance stamped into the book (San Jose BMW)...

New Dunlop Roadsmart tires front & rear, 120+180
5.5" rear rim
BMW wireless alarm
hard wired for V1 or Escort radar detector and GPS
PIAA driving lights w/ 3-position switch, controllable at fairing switch
and at turn-signal cancellation switch
clear front turn signal lenses
oscillators for headlight and taillight
BMW adjustable pegs and BMW shifter linkage extension
Billet frame plugs
stainless steel allen screw/nuts everywhere
Z-tek carbon fiber tank protector
BMW rear master cylinder protector
BMW hard bags, BMW lockable rear luggage plate, rear BMW bag
extra higher windscreen, plus stock windscreen
ABS
heated grips
16.5k miles, all dealer maintenance and records
waterproof Pelican small case under seat
Corbin leather saddle w/Corbin backrest
brake peg extension
shifter peg extension
LED assist on rear light
(comfort BMW) bar risers
'02 BMW mirrors

...and a few other BMW and Pirate's Lair farkles.

It's FAR from broken in, dry as a bone everywhere, and is in the process of my swapping to top-end Wilbers front and rear, a HyperPro steering damper and a Bill Mayer dual leather seat w/backrest.

Point is- the bargains are out there, and a sensibly upgraded prior to '02 or '03 only lacks the slightly more sophisticated electronics and has a cleaner front faring, IMHO... in my case, the '02+ mirrors, BMW adjustable 'comfort' pegs and bar risers and 'comfort' windscreen, as well as the aftermarket goodies let me take the extra budget money I'd saved (7.5k) and go for the suspension upgrades... I rode a few '05 and '06 K1200S's, in fine shape and well maintained and set up; they ran rougher, peakier powerband, and a few ergonomic issues for my 6'4", 200+ pound frame made the 2000 RS with the above condition and mileage an easy call.

Keep looking, you'l find it! Even in the spring with tax-time coming, they are out there... I used to live in MA until I moved back to CA last year, and I know from personal experience that the prices in MA are better than the prices out here in CA, for the reason another forum member mentioned, the year 'round riding season. I bought mine in the bay area very late in 2009, and looked for 2 months before I found what I wanted on Craigslist and pulled the trigger. One thing, though- go for your FIRST visit with cash in hand to dicker, it's worth at least 5-10% in savings, sometimes more. Go IMMEDIATELY to see the one you find; wait and the good ones will go FAST, always.

My 2 cents... good luck! :D
 

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jasonj84 said:
I have decided to pass on the $7700 one. I am now actively searching all online classifieds, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. I found an 04 GT in DC with 3k miles for $9750, QUOTE]

That sounds like an even worse deal. Instead of paying 200 dollars over retail blue book, the 04 is $1000 dollars over retail. Where are you finding such horrible deals? At 9750, you could buy a nice K1200S. I live in Claifornia where bikes bring in a premium since our riding season is year round. I always thought finding a used K1200RS for a good deal was easy, they pop up all the time.
Now looking at an 03 GT in TX with 14k that I can get for about $6500 (not including trans to Mass), and one in PA with 7k and some extras that I offered $7500 for (he was asking $9k). Haven't heard back.
 

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Nada average retail value for a 2002 K1200RS is $5600 and low retail is $4300. I would bet you can do way better. Keep searching and BE PATIENT. :D
 

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Nada average retail value for a 2002 K1200RS is $5600 and low retail is $4300. I would bet you can do way better. Keep searching and BE PATIENT. :D
Thank you. Hard to be patient.
 

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"Hard to be patient".

I hear what you are saying when the money is burning a hole in your pocket. By being patient has saved me $15K on 3 BMW's vs. buying new. Have a few cocktails. :clap:
 

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"Hard to be patient".

I hear what you are saying when the money is burning a hole in your pocket. By being patient has saved me $15K on 3 BMW's vs. buying new. Have a few cocktails. :clap:
That's my problem. Not enough cocktails! I will take you up on the recommendation. :2beers: It is Martinis tonight! Not so much that the money is burning a hole, as I see spring around the corner and want to be on a new ride.
 

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I have one along with you. It will have Grey Goose and it will be dirty. :D
 

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I'm selling my 2003 K1200GT locally for $5000... 60k miles, all the regular GT doo-dads. So I think anything near $8k is way too much.
 

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Jason
Nada average retail value for a 2002 K1200RS is $5600 and low retail is $4300.
This is quite an un-realistic price for a low mileage great conditon bike. I find Nada has to be the worst for values. They told me my boat was worth 4k and I had people fighting over it for 8k......... I have yet to see any realistic values from Nada assuming its in good condition.
 
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