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MPG... I must have the worst around, it's about 30 in town. I have a air temp "spoofer" (forget the brand) that tells the ECU it's 20 degrees cooler, that richens the mix. I put that on in an effort to control hot stall issues, while using 87 octane E10, now use 91 octane E10. I should take it off and see what happens, it cost 2-3 mpg when I first put it on a couple years ago.

Living on an island 20 miles by 30, and using the bike as a commuter (4.5 miles to work, 4.5 miles back) is likely the root of the mpg matter. I do get a minute at speed going home but the offramp comes up in only a mile, so it's not until the weekend I can stretch it out a bit with the significant other onboard. There are over a million peeps on this island and every one of them seems to be driving several cars at once.
I get around 45 to 48 mpg. I have 23000 miles on the Odo. My bike is a 2009, after the disastrous 2006 1200GT. I have the Estrada highway pegs that were just refurbished by Ken after 6 or so years. Cannot do without them on any ride over 2 hours. I am also 83 years young. @ years ago I took the bike down to Virginia for the famous Touring weekend. I also did a 10-day trip last year from New York on the super slabs to Virginia, then doing the Skyline and all the way to the tail of the dragon, Maggie valley etc. Loving the bike after 10 years of wonership.
 

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MPG... I must have the worst around, it's about 30 in town. I have a air temp "spoofer" (forget the brand) that tells the ECU it's 20 degrees cooler, that richens the mix. I put that on in an effort to control hot stall issues, while using 87 octane E10, now use 91 octane E10. I should take it off and see what happens, it cost 2-3 mpg when I first put it on a couple years ago.

Living on an island 20 miles by 30, and using the bike as a commuter (4.5 miles to work, 4.5 miles back) is likely the root of the mpg matter. I do get a minute at speed going home but the offramp comes up in only a mile, so it's not until the weekend I can stretch it out a bit with the significant other onboard. There are over a million peeps on this island and every one of them seems to be driving several cars at once.

Isn't there a simple wiring fix for the hot starting? connects the starter button to the starter motor somehow..? I think that was the original dealer recall fix for this.

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There was a BMW-supplied retrofit for bikes with inadequate grounding, IIRC used up through 2009 K13s. My 2010 is supposed to have that installed as OE. Hot stall on stopping seems to mostly happen when the bike is hotter than normal (but gage still at or below 1/2) and then it may not want to crank for restart. Battery is 3-year old Oddyssey PC680 and cranks well when "cold" which is in the low 80s here. I attribute poor hot start to a dragging clutch although the bike doesn't creep in first gear with the clutch pulled in, so I put it in neutral and it will usually start then.
 

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yep, dead common issue, nasty wiring, the kit upgrades it and so the right volts reach the starter when the cabling is very hot.
as for the bike, I had a red one.... update the front indicators to clear lenses makes it look like a much more modern bike (the red ones look the worst with the orange ones)... some bloke in germany use to make them ( I got mine second hand on flebay)

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I do like the clear lenses better but pretty sure amber is required for front turn signals in the USA. Anybody ???
 

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I do like the clear lenses better but pretty sure amber is required for front turn signals in the USA. Anybody ???
You change the bulbs in the turn signals. Amber is required for side markers.
 

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You change the bulbs in the turn signals. Amber is required for side markers.
yes the bulbs are orange, when working look exactly the same. it was startling how it updated the whole front of the bike.....

mate with the grey one fitted a booster plug (got very cheap of ebay he was very sceptical it would help). But claimed the difference was incredible, first time it would pop the front up off the throttle. As the GT only has one CAT sensor and if I lived in the sates I put this on all day long....

 

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As the GT only has one CAT sensor and if I lived in the sates I put this on all day long....
Re: the AF-XieD - why only if you lived in the states?
I ordered two and fitted them to mine and my mates K1200GT. Shipped from the states to Ireland. You may get caught for customs/duty, but it's worth it. Really transforms the bike
 

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Re: the AF-XieD - why only if you lived in the states?
I ordered two and fitted them to mine and my mates K1200GT. Shipped from the states to Ireland. You may get caught for customs/duty, but it's worth it. Really transforms the bike
the principle of being robbed for import duty....

buy and pay their version of VAT, then pay £20 to get a letter a week later informing me I need to pay 20% on top of the purchase price....

oddly buy utter trash from the east and its always without duty and arrives faster???
 

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If you have a mate in the states or indeed the bike....

I sold my K1300GT far too heavy and the brakes just can't cope.... its got an added 100kg of lead for no good reason at all and the screen is hideous....
picture above has the BMW high screen on the grey one.... it was really terrible, I got the z technic high one, on the red bike (as I've got the equiv on the GS and is brilliant), but on the K1300 it was only just better (as in unusable) than the BM one... terrible, noisy and turbulent.

I ride my GS will no effort at all in a manner that mark marques couldn't keep up with. The K1300 has NO power anywhere, so much Lead to fight and No brakes at all... plus a hideous seat.... so it went. I got a KTM 1290 but that's even worse, has monumental power.... but a throttle response designed by the play station generation, only compatible with full electronic nannies enabled, so the power is never allowed to reach the back wheel... and its another bike with NO brakes.... the discs go blue the thing dives about 6 foot, but you don't actually ever slow down.....

I took the current Triumph Tiger 1200 out .... that was a revelation.... so much like an air cooled GS it's uncanny... but moped power (much less on full throttle than than the starter motor has on the KTM), however the brakes, OMG !!!, I got a bit of heat in the tyres and having got stuck trying to play in menus.... I decided to pull over to play at the side of the road... I grabbed all the brakes it had, and winded myself.... 6 foot brick walls slow you down less
 

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Did my 1st oil/filter change, can someone tell me how to reset the service reminder? The manual only says to take it to a shop.

At 22,300 miles and not knowing the service history, should these shavings cause any particular alarm?

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sorry can't say on the swarf, if it was a GS I'd say yes the gearbox is so full of false neutrals you'll easily grate that much off (of course on these ones they're are split units).

the box on the k1200 was a hideous mess that failed all day long (in the end, most after the third or forth fix got the whole k1300 box put in under warranty). I don't think I missed a gear on the K1300, its not the nicest box, so I can image you'll get some extras at oil change. I forget is there an almighty crunch when you select 1st every time?

Then of course (but shouldn't be ferrous) the cam chain likes to fall off.... not sure when it became std... but the clutch cover comes of fairly easy to check, you need to check for the plastic cam chain jump guard. Issue was the nasty hydraulic cam chain tensioner. At start up the tensioner isn't doing enough and it can jump a tooth. I didn't know but there's a post recently suggesting they modified it on later bikes (again no idea when).... however the big boys fit a manual adjuster that so it can't do a honda on you APE - BMW

the other thing that mine would do was cut out with an almighty bang that felt like the crank was being left 100 yards behind... It would happen whenever you rip it up the road in the lower gears with 80% + throttle around 7 to 8k rpm. In the end I would always disable traction control.... long press up on the abs button..... then the bike was transformed from a stuttering joke that didn't run right and had that "Bang" that scared the living daylights out of you (and clearly wasn't doing something any good), in to a normal motorcycle that did what you expect
 

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Curtis, I purchased my 2010 K1300GT (50K mi) in January 2019 in Phoenix, AZ area. By May, I was experiencing the hot start issues and took the Odyssey PC680MJ route in June. Things went well until this June when bike wouldn't at all due to failed battery. The battery was replaced under warranty, but I had to believe that the wiring issue contributed to the battery's early failure. I therefore bit the bullet and ordered the supplemental wiring harness and pulled the bike apart while awaiting its delivery and the replacement battery. Unsurprisingly, the plastic fuel quick release broke and I ordered and replaced another of the bike's Achilles' heels. After putting everything back together, the bike fires up with a noticeable improvement in start time. I would recommend you plan to do the same while your bike still runs. I ordered through local dealer ($120+ now), but you can get from European sources over eBay for less while you can afford the longer transit time. Happy motoring! :cool:
 
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