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hello, I'm sure there there are many similar posts. Fairly new to the k1200. I've found it hard to confirm which style brake system I have in my 08 k1200gt. Is it the Partial Integral ABS II? or I ? Just wanted to confirm as I am trouble shooting a solid abs light on dash. I have seen some abs flushing videos that describe a whirring sound upon ignition on with regards to the abs system. I have never heard this before. Is that supposed to make a sound on my bike? Appreciate all responses. thx Kelly
 

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Hi Kelly, it would be really best to read the fault code using either GS911 or Motoscan. Either buy one, get someone who has one, or go to a dealer to have it read.
There is no other way to diagnose the ABS fault light.

This will tell you what part of the ABS is faulty/alerting. It could be as simple as a broken wire in one of the sensor leads, and easily fixable. Or it could be the ABS module.
I think the GS911 or Motoscan will also tell you which ABS system you have, but am not sure.
 

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The 2006 K1200GT came with servo-assisted (power) Partial-Integral ABS brakes, and all later bikes came with Partial-Integral ABS without power assist. The whirring sound on startup is the power brakes pressurizing, so you should not hear that on your '08 GT.

Partial-Integral ABS on the GT means that the front brake lever will apply proportionally-appropriate rear braking as well, while the rear brake pedal only operates the rear brake for better sporting and low-speed performance.

As Corkboy says, you can buy/borrow/rent a GS911 or Motoscan and read the codes directly.
 
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Hi Kelly, it would be really best to read the fault code using either GS911 or Motoscan. Either buy one, get someone who has one, or go to a dealer to have it read.
There is no other way to diagnose the ABS fault light.

This will tell you what part of the ABS is faulty/alerting. It could be as simple as a broken wire in one of the sensor leads, and easily fixable. Or it could be the ABS module.
I think the GS911 or Motoscan will also tell you which ABS system you have, but am not sure.
Thx I am going to try motoscan first and see what I can come up with. Thx so much.
The 2006 K1200GT came with servo-assisted (power) Partial-Integral ABS brakes, and all later bikes came with Partial-Integral ABS without power assist. The whirring sound on startup is the power brakes pressurizing, so you should not hear that on your '08 GT.

Partial-Integral ABS on the GT means that the front brake lever will apply proportionally-appropriate rear braking as well, while the rear brake pedal only operates the rear brake for better sporting and low-speed performance.

As Corkboy says, you can buy/borrow/rent a GS911 or Motoscan and read the codes directly.
Thx so much for making that a lot clearer. I will definitely get it diagnosed one way or another.
 

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If you're going to buy a motoscan, I'd suggest getting the connector/adaptor from the same site. There are too many dodgy ones going around, which aren't 100% compatible.

I have the same bike (K1200GT 2008) and find the motoscan a must-have. So far, I've used it to read/clear faults, including ABS, reset the service warning, add another Tire pressure sensor to the bike, and remove the faulty one.

You need the software (via the appstore). Have a look at the website to see which licence is needed (minimum basic licence to clear error codes). You can upgrade the licence at any time if you need to access higher functions.

The BT adaptor

And the adaptor cable, which you can order with the adaptor.

Any questions, just shout.
 

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If you're going to buy a motoscan, I'd suggest getting the connector/adaptor from the same site. There are too many dodgy ones going around, which aren't 100% compatible.

I have the same bike (K1200GT 2008) and find the motoscan a must-have. So far, I've used it to read/clear faults, including ABS, reset the service warning, add another Tire pressure sensor to the bike, and remove the faulty one.

You need the software (via the appstore). Have a look at the website to see which licence is needed (minimum basic licence to clear error codes). You can upgrade the licence at any time if you need to access higher functions.

The BT adaptor

And the adaptor cable, which you can order with the adaptor.

Any questions, just shout.
Really appreciate all the info. I did get an adapter cable already. Ended up buying the pro version of motoscan. Took a few trys to get connected but got it. Fault code 5DF0 and 5DF1 pump motor voltage supply. I am guessing this is probably going to be the famous brushes stuck in the pump motor problem. Will do further probing at later date. If I am going to dig into the bike to pull the abs motor, I will do i in the winter months when I can take my time. I have to do a valve check as well this winter. Is there further testing I can do to confirm the pump motor?? Cheers!!
 

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Если ошибки 5DF0 и 5DF1. Слегка постучите по двигателю ABS. Создайте вибрацию, и щеки оторвутся. Уже на двух мотоциклах я так сделал и АБС начала работать. АБС снимать не надо.

If errors 5DF0 and 5DF1. Tap the ABS motor lightly. Create a vibration and the cheeks will come off. Already on two motorcycles I did this and the ABS began to work. You don't need to remove the ABS.
 

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Если ошибки 5DF0 и 5DF1. Слегка постучите по двигателю ABS. Создайте вибрацию, и щеки оторвутся. Уже на двух мотоциклах я так сделал и АБС начала работать. АБС снимать не надо.
I appreciate your reply Moto Vasya 21 . I will have to find a translation app to read it. Thx.
 

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the early systems play up and can't be fixed

a later system plays up and you can find how to fix all over youtube - according to parts ref was on all ABS K1200GT's and K1300GT's from 2004 to 2010
hit it with a stick - the brushes will likely free off - if not hit it harder - should work for another 6 months

see the third picture - correctly called ABS II but BM aficionados think otherwise, mostly due to stupid naming nomenclature from BMW
as there are 20 times as many GS' made, you'd be better off looking for R1200GS repair videos - same module, same designed in feature that makes them play up the good news its much easier to get at on the K1300 than a R1200

BMW just got caught making the fourth iteration vibrate its brains out - USA recall to remove the bolt and put back the plastic version - Europe remains blissfully unaware of the little Mod BMW fitted in 2021 to get more work coming in the dealerships

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Kelly, You stated that you are "Fairly new to the k1200". Have you taken it out for a ride yet? If not, the ABS light will extinguish once you start rolling, as the system completes its self diagnosis. If that's what happens, this is is normal. If it stays on after you are riding, then you have a problem. Download the BMW Rider's Manual from the BMW Motorrad website if you don't already one. It explains about your brake system and how it operates.
 

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I just went through this again on my 2008, fixed for good this time (I hope) with a motor from 2014 Ford Focus:
See my post below
 
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