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Anybody replaced seat cover on K1200s/1300s?

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I got a second used seat for my K1300s and have an expensive seat cover to put on it. I removed staples and found the cover is is glued on most of the way around the edges. But I'm not sure if it is glued to the seat foam.

The cover maker says if the original seat cover is glued on install the new cover over the existing one. Has anyone replaced a cover and if so did you remove the old cover or just put the new cover over it? I'd like to remove the old cover if possible but don't want to tear up the seat foam.
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I am in the process of doing the same on my K1200S from 2006. The seat has a big slit where your legs rest, and I bought a seat cover from Volcano in Italy.
I started pulling on the sides of the slit and the cover is actually glued but will separate from the foam, without damaging the shape of the foam.
I think the best way would be to install the cover on top of the existing/original cover if it is not damaged, but you would still have to pull all the staples on the underneath, so that you can nail new staples on top of your new cover.

Most of the glue is located on the edges, so it is easier to start pulling the old original cover from the middle of the seat, after cutting (if needed) a slit with a sharp blade.

Keep in mind that my seat is 17 years old and reacts in a certain way that your more recent seat may not do.

Yves
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Below you can see that most of the glue (neoprene glue) is concentrated on the edges of the seat. That is why it makes sense to remove the external layer from the middle to the edges.
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Below, you can see the underneath, once the outer shell and all the staples have been removed:

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Top of the seat showing the foam. You can see the large slit that was created years ago and has started deteriorating the foam:

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Now, I just have to install the Volcano cover on top of it.

Yves
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Post some photos of your process. I have also ordered this seat from Volcano and its on its way. Are you doing anything abut the indentations on the original foam the one on the sides in the front.
Looks like that foam is rotting and has done its job. As deep as you are into it I would replace it. There are videos on youtube that give instructions on shaping. And some sealing tips too.
Are you doing anything abut the indentations on the original foam the one on the sides in the front.
No, I am not doing anything about that. The VOLCANO cover does not have these ridges but looks really good. It is a major upgrade from the regular seat.
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Looks like that foam is rotting and has done its job. As deep as you are into it I would replace it.
It looks worse than it is in reality. I do not feel like removing the entire foam and replacing it.....honestly.

I think I am going to ask a local upholstery shop to install the Volcano cover. They will most definitely do a better job than me and it would require multiple strong hands to pull on the fabric, while stapling it.

Yves
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Let us see it when you get done. How long did it take for you to receive it.
A month and a half. I suspect they build them on demand, since these bikes are classics.

Yves
I got a second used seat for my K1300s and have an expensive seat cover to put on it. I removed staples and found the cover is is glued on most of the way around the edges. But I'm not sure if it is glued to the seat foam.

The cover maker says if the original seat cover is glued on install the new cover over the existing one. Has anyone replaced a cover and if so did you remove the old cover or just put the new cover over it? I'd like to remove the old cover if possible but don't want to tear up the seat foam.
Yes, paid $300, for a slightly different material, looks good.
Yves, thanks very much for that info and the photos! Exactly what I wanted to know. I'm going to take a shot at removing the cover since most glue is on the bottom. I got the used seat (K1200s I think) just to put the new cover on, I kept the original seat. In fact, just yesterday got a carbon fiber seat cowl to use the original seat as a solo seat. I'll get pictures of both seats as I go along...
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OK, I got the cover removed today. I found the cover is lightly glued to the foam over the entire seat with extra glue on the bottom edges near the staples. I cut the cover on top carefully with an X-acto knife. I found cutting with the blade flat (horizontal) and using a sawing motion would split the material and I could basically peel it apart without damaging the foam.

#1 thing I learned: I could not peel the cover away from the foam cleanly without heat. I first began pulling on the cover without heat and it ripped out small pieces of foam. Once I started using heat (hair dryer on full hot worked very well, I think a heat gun even on low would be too much) the cover peeled away from the foam cleanly. Had I started with the heat right away, the foam would have stayed nearly perfect. I ended up with a divot on the rear of the seat but not too deep. The front is nearly perfect.

I applied the heat and pulled lightly until the glue started to release and found that worked all the way around. Even the thin foam that wraps under the base held together as long as I heated the glue enough. I used scissors and the X-acto knife to cut sections that I peeled off from top to bottom until it was done.

A question I have is whether I'll need to fill in the area that the foam peeled away from. It's about 1/8" deep. I'm thinking if the new cover is pulled tight that gap won't show but I'm not sure.


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You can tell your bike is more recent by the amount of foam that went away. I would definitely try to fill up these gouges or get another (and older...) seat, before putting a cover on top.

Yves
I got a second used seat for my K1300s and have an expensive seat cover to put on it. I removed staples and found the cover is is glued on most of the way around the edges. But I'm not sure if it is glued to the seat foam.

The cover maker says if the original seat cover is glued on install the new cover over the existing one. Has anyone replaced a cover and if so did you remove the old cover or just put the new cover over it? I'd like to remove the old cover if possible but don't want to tear up the seat foam.
Took mine to an upholstery shop. They recommended leaving the original cover in place and covering over it. Has looked good and worked fine for 5 years now.
Thought I'd give an update. I noticed the replacement seat that I want to put the new cover on is the lowered version. Not the same shape as the stock seat. The new cover doesn't seem to fit on it, seems too tight as if the lowered seat needs a different shaped cover.

I do have a gel pad that I was going to use on another bike. I have come up with a plan to put the gel pad on the replacement seat; that would raise the height a half inch making it closer to the stock seat. Waiting for some half inch foam to arrive that I will use to match up with the the gel pad. I'll take photos as I work on it...
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I finally installed the cover on the stripped seat. We had our first Saturday with some sunshine and I left the cover in the sun to warm it up. The cover is made by Volcano in Italy and shipped to the USA through a British agent. The net result is that you end up paying (in dollars) exactly twice the price in Euros (Italian price is 98 euros). The British seller on EBAY is taking a copious share and then there is shipping and taxes.

Anyway, the final product is really nice and make your seat look like Alcantara and carbon fibers fabric. Of course, it is neither.

The cover is surrounded by some kind of elastic band, that helps with the positioning and installation. I used the following pneumatic tool to drive the staples in the hard shell of the BMW seat:
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That tool is connected to an air compressor. The staples are 5/16" or 3/8" T50 type.

The best way is to let the cover soak the heat of the sunshine and do the work in the sun.
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I started by securing the front of the cover and the two middle sides that require significant pulling to get them right.
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On the bike, it looks sharp and much better than the stock seat. The stitching is beautiful.
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Sitting on it, it is very comfortable and provides a good amount of grip and friction.

Yves
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Nice work! Looks like I have the same cover, just different colors. Hope mines turns out that well!
Make sure that the holes in the foam are not showing up too much. If it is too obvious, you may have to get another seat and install the cover on top of of the existing untouched seat.

Yves
Thanks for the write up and pictures. Still waiting for mine to ship. Seat looks great.
Got my seat cover today and debating on weather to try and install or bring it to a shop. I try to do everything so im leaning on giving it a go. Im heading out for a two week trip so won't get a chance until I get back. Cover looks good buy seem really tight In the middle.
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