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I'm about to pull the trigger on a new K1200GT. Dealer sent me an email saying he may have located what I'm looking for, a blue 06 or 07 K1200GT, new. Going through these threads I see so many problems, one that really bothers me, surging, bucking, motor stalls and no help from the dealer network. Am I about to make a big mistake here? I have a Road Glide and a Deuce in the garage now, so I'm not desperate for a new bike. However, I did test ride an R1200RT, I can say some good things about it but not enough to get me off the Glide. Then I rode the K1200GT, that one won me over. But not if it will have unsolvable problems in 500 to 2000 miles.

On the other hand, do we have a situation like I've seen in other forums, a few people with problems come to the forums to vent, the VAST majority are enjoying their K1200GT's in quiet bliss?
 

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Quite a few of us are having problem with our 06 - 07 GT.

Anyway we can do a poll?
 

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my experience

I had a Harley 2000 Road king for 3 years. Went to the BMW K1200LT loved the bike but I wanted more power. Was the 1st to get The new 06' GT in my area have about 9000. miles on it and it hasn't given me any problems. Don't even mind the seat. Took a 4000 mile trip 3 weeks ago and the bike was flawless.
 

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problems but still a great bike

Having a few problems. One was the sucky stock seat but my Bill Mayer saddle I replaced it with is great. Problem solved. Next is the combination of computer issues but really only a few incidents in 4000 miles. This is a known hazard of a new model high tech anything in my opinion. I knew when I got it there could be issues but I have never had a bike that handled this well and still was good for long drives so I bought it anyway and have never regretted it. This bike always puts a big shit-eating grin on my face. I think part of the issue people are seeing is the bike is so high strung it takes getting used to, like any thoroughbred. The dealer, Santa Fe BMW, is working with me on them and I am confident that these too shall pass. They, like most of the BMW dealers I know, are very knowledgeable and willing to work with me, more than the other brands' dealers. Lastly, I haven't figured out how to attach highway pegs yet without ruining the looks and leanability of the bike but rest assured, I will - and unlike BMW corporation, I do consider this to be essential for the long distance touring I sometimes like to do.

On the plus side, this is the greatest motorcycle I have ever ridden in 30 years and about a half-million miles of riding. You name me a bike, I can find issues with it unless it's perfect (haven't found any like that so far!). I have ridden many bikes and not one other can compare. I am an equipment engineer and my standards are very high. I suspect that is the type of person that is attracted to BMW's so when you look at this forum consider how many people rave about the bike's performance in spite of complaining. I think we talk about the issues to help us all resolve them instead of accepting them. This is basically a group help forum, not a complaint forum.

For the best long distance tourer, don't get this bike unless you are willing to sacrifice some comfort - get a Goldwing, an Ultra Classic, or a K1200LT. For a very good bike for the highway with amazing handling and performance in mountains and maneuverability in city traffic, get the K1200GT, it has no peer.
 

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Blackhorse17,

There's a poll on this website on the 7.0 software upgrade. It should give you some idea on the ratio of KGT owner's with problems vs. those that are not. Personally my 06 is running fine as delivered with just over 4000 miles. I would not let anything that you have read about discourage you from your purchase. The KGT is an absolutely fantastic machine and warranty was invented to take care of any problems that may occur.

Go for it. You seriously will not reget it.

John
06 CGM KGT
 

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Don't mean to scare you. K1200GT is a fantastic bike. If BMW can fix this idling/throttle problem, GT will be the best bike there is! :)

The poll is only 7.0 software update for K1200s, K1200R and K1200GT. Not directly related to whether GT owner have stalling, high idle and RPM stay up and slowly come down problem. There are quite a few that have update but problems still exist. I don't think there is anyone that actually have these problems before and fix by 7.0 software update.

It took me a while to find out that I have these problems other than stalling, by the way, my bike hasn't stall for a long time (knock on wood). Please be aware that most of these problems start showing after/during a long miles ride... Riding non stop on the freeway for a long period of time, it hard to see that the problem is there... If you sense that the throttle is sensitive while on the freeway... you have the problem... Probably the high idle or the RPM stay up where you RPM it to and come down slowly... Next time, hold the clutch in and RPM up the engine, if your RPM stay up there for 1/2 second and come down slowly... Welcome to the club. :(

Can we have a poll to see how many of us (GTs) are having problem and how many are not? Regardless of what version of sofware? Or poll with 6.x with/without problem and 7.x with/without problem. I think there are quite a few of us that have problem. I think quite a few that might have problems but might not notice...

My bike works fine (fantastic actually) for the 200 miles trip 2 weeks ago, but during last weekend 300 miles trip; the problem started after 50 miles and on and off during the whole trip. I knew it because we were riding through twisty and the throttle is sluggish... RPM stay and come down slowly problem. When I close the throttle, bike still gasing forward... Make twisty really challenging. :mad:

So far, I don't think there is a solid fix for the GT problem. Some upgrade to 7.x and think the problems has gone away, some said not.
 

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I don't have any idling/throttle problems.
In fact my GT has been the most trouble free bike I have ever owned after riding for 30 + years.
Buy it !
 

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No problems here. Did take a bit to adjust to the throttle issue, but once adjusted all is well. Absolutely no regrets - great bike!
 

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You gotta realize that the internet is fraught with complaints and buyer beware information which most likely has no bearing on what real life is like. I'd venture to guess that the majority of GT owners are just walkiing around with massive smiles on their faces due to the fact that the bike is absolutely incredible.

The problems I have are operator error and the fact that the combination or work and illness are limiting my riding. Buy the bike you want and enjoy it. The software issues will work itself out - the last two year with my Land Rover LR3 was similar. I personally, didn't notice much of the original 2005 issues that "everyone" complained about but at the last service they applied the newest software and it's a completely different truck. I liked it before, I like it even more now.

I wouldn't miss out on a fantastic bike because a few people around the world are having a couple problems.
 

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Only a very small percentage have real issues. MOST GT owners do NOT. No different than any other product. You should not miss this machine. Enjoy the ride!
 

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Just turned over 3000 miles on my '06 K12GT and know this is the best built and most fun bike I've had in 43 years of riding. I've had no problems at all.
 

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I have had no problems with the bike, other than the stock seat being uncomfortable. It is, without a doubt, the best motorcycle I have ever owned (with the possible exception of my 1991 Ducati 907ie).
 

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No bike is perfect. GT's for the most part are very durable and reliable...and...ALOT OF FUN to ride.

Gathering places like this site make very infrequent issues look like huge/widespread problems. Bad news travels faster than good news on the internet( mixed in with great info/writing too, dont get me wrong )


So, go with your gut feeling and buy the bike. You won't regret it. Hell, any problems and you have a 3year warranty
 

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Blackhorse17 said:
I'm about to pull the trigger on a new K1200GT. Dealer sent me an email saying he may have located what I'm looking for, a blue 06 or 07 K1200GT, new. Going through these threads I see so many problems, one that really bothers me, surging, bucking, motor stalls and no help from the dealer network. Am I about to make a big mistake here? I have a Road Glide and a Deuce in the garage now, so I'm not desperate for a new bike. However, I did test ride an R1200RT, I can say some good things about it but not enough to get me off the Glide. Then I rode the K1200GT, that one won me over. But not if it will have unsolvable problems in 500 to 2000 miles.

On the other hand, do we have a situation like I've seen in other forums, a few people with problems come to the forums to vent, the VAST majority are enjoying their K1200GT's in quiet bliss?
I do NOT have any problems. I have repeatedly said that this is the finest motorcycle that I've ever owned!

My wife liked my GT so well after riding it a few times, she traded in her nine month old RT for one, so our family has two. I've got around 7,500 miles on mine, I think she has around 4,500 on hers.

The seat gets uncomfortable after a couple of hours without stopping, but then I weight WAY more than the target rider for this bike, and sooner or later I'll get a seat that's better for me.

Since you're used to the cruiser "feet forward" riding position, be prepared for some initial discomfort until you get used to the sportier riding position on the GT. In the long run, the slight lean forward position is better, at least for me, as my tailbone won't take the pressure from the typical cruiser riding position. I even had to have a custom seat made for my Goldwing that seated me well back to get a slight forward lean position.

I'd be more concerned about keeping your driving permit untarnished than mechanical issues with the GT. The power is VERY seductive! :D
 

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It's going to be hard NOT to get the GT after riding it. :ricky

I was getting a little concerned about all the posts with problems vs. the just got back from wherever a 1,000+ miles away and had a good time. I should know by now not to panic when reading forums. Problems are always a hot topic, especially to anyone having one and they tend to do a lot of posting. Can't really blame them.

I have two dealers I've contacted after I got serous, the one I'm working with is 170 miles away and the other about 120. Figure I can keep the Glide as my long distance backup just in case. Also, I'm pushing for a new 07, that should get me the latest bike BMW is working on with hopes that a few teething problems will have been worked out. BMW dealers being so scattered was an issue I had to get my head around.

For comfort, I actually thought the GT fit me a lot better than the RT, the LT, simply too much for me. 99.9% of my riding is solo. My first planned trip for the GT will be to Taos NM from AR,(or the Wall) usually take about a week for that one. I should have enough miles on the GT by then to know if it has any warranty issues that need to be addressed.

I should never have taken that GT out, it's like a drug. And with my HD wardrobe, what am I going to do with all my black t-shirts, leathers, vests....? :rotf:
 

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Had mine since May. Had to alter the seat and adjust to the sensitive throttle in lower gears and rpm. This bike is unbelievable and is capable of giving you a rush everytime
you twist the grip. No update at this time.

Phil
 

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Just a suggestion, but Halloween is coming up! :D
:rotf: Certainly a different crowd, the BMW group. I think I'm ready for that change. But, I'll keep my Deuce and if the GT works out I'll sell the Glide. I suspect I'll have the GT this time next year with the Deuce collecting dust. I can say a lot of very good things for both brands. Same with my rides for the RT vs. the GT, both have a lot to offer.

One of the things that got me thinking about BMW's again, I was out on a solo cruise and saw this headlight coming up fast, I was doing 60 in a 55, guy slows, then blows by me with a wave, I returned it, the bike just kind of went "whoosh" as it went by, two up, on his top case (tour pack in HD speak) in chrome letters was "whoosh", it cracked me up and got me thinking about the BMW touring bikes all over again.

So to keep things on topic, took the GT and RT out, REALLY like the fixed fairing setup and they work so well. It was a quiet bubble sitting behind the screen. I didnt' need ear plugs, that was quite a plus!! :ricky
 

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BOY O BOY now I know why Just Joe doesn't want to post or read this web site any more!!

My 2 cents is that your Harley will be a distance memory. Not becasue they are a bad bike but because you will be moving into a different style of riding.

Being a 3 year convert from 15+ years of riding a Harley I will try to put it in words. Maybe some one on this site can expand on the differences between the two styles.

First thing a see is its all about the ride not how good you look. Next thing I see BMW riders have no fear on putting miles on their bikes. I mean alot of miles. It's nothing for us to do a 500 mile ride to no where for the day. Unlike my Harley friends (not all but most) that ride a 100 miles and think they had a long day.

There are many more but there is one thing for sure. I bet you can ride the wheels off the Deuce but the GT will be a little harder.
 

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Not to jump on the original thread, but I rode Harleys for 13 years and it's simply apples v. oranges between Harleys and BMWs. What's not is the loyalty. Both have their intended purpose and they both do that well. Either way all that matters is if you enjoy the ride.
 
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