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I'm interested in comments regarding comfort/ergos between the GS and GT. I'm thinking of trading in my GS for the GT this summer. I want something a little lower to the ground for the wife. Maybe a little better wind protection. How do the driver Ergos compare. Is the GT much sportier than the GS or is the riding position fairly upright? Does the GT feel heavier or does its lower cg nullify the additional weight? any comments appreciated.

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fixinbones said:
I'm interested in comments regarding comfort/ergos between the GS and GT. I'm thinking of trading in my GS for the GT this summer. I want something a little lower to the ground for the wife. Maybe a little better wind protection. How do the driver Ergos compare. Is the GT much sportier than the GS or is the riding position fairly upright? Does the GT feel heavier or does its lower cg nullify the additional weight? any comments appreciated.

Jay
i did JUST that
i do miss the gs at times
but..

the gs is

rocket-fast in comparison
sportier riding position.... but, adjustable
gs heavier.... but the pounds melt away at speeds over 5 mph
tons more wind protection
must better for 2-up travel

the gs goes off road
lighter
can be more fun
less hp means less problems with letting your wrist override your brain (if you know what i mean)

but...
the GT is an INFINITELY BETTER bike
trade in the gs and NEVER LOOK BACK
 

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the "RAW" feeling of the boxer motor cannot be duplicated
but, the "ELECTRIC MOTOR" of the GT is unmatchable
 

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I'm headed in the opposite direction. Selling my '04 GT so I can get a GS or GSA. I'm thinking I need both but for now, the swtich is in!

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Yeah I do love the rawness of the boxer motor and I don't really need the HP/speed of the GT. Honestly, the RT would be a better bike for me but the looks just don't do it for me. I'm going to check the GT out at the NY motorcycle show this weekend.
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ClearwaterBMW said:
the gs is

rocket-fast in comparison
sportier riding position.... but, adjustable
gs heavier.... but the pounds melt away at speeds over 5 mph
tons more wind protection
must better for 2-up travel
Greg, I assume you meant to say that the GT is all of the above, not the GS?
 

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I'm still teetering between a K1200GT and a R1200RT. Or maybe just a naked R1200R/K1200R with a windscreen. Or maybe the new K1200R Sport. :confused:

I've never owned a boxer engined vehicle. I currently am spoiled with my FZ1 and will find it hard to go backwards in the power department. I did it once before though. I traded my '90 CBR1000F in for a '99 SV650. I kept the SV for 7 years until I bought the FZ1. The SV only lasted a year after that before I sold it due to lack of use.

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SUCATI said:
I'm still teetering between a K1200GT and a R1200RT. Or maybe just a naked R1200R/K1200R with a windscreen. Or maybe the new K1200R Sport. :confused:

I've never owned a boxer engined vehicle. I currently am spoiled with my FZ1 and will find it hard to go backwards in the power department. I did it once before though. I traded my '90 CBR1000F in for a '99 SV650. I kept the SV for 7 years until I bought the FZ1. The SV only lasted a year after that before I sold it due to lack of use.

Mike
I guess you just narrowed your choice to the K1200R or K1200GT.
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I own an 06 GT and decided to augment it with the recent adoption of an 07 GSA.

The bikes are complementary, but worlds apart.

I have 1 33" inseam, and can comfortably touch the ground on the GSA, but duck walking it backwards is difficult at times.

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I'm headed in the opposite direction. Selling my '04 GT so I can get a GS or GSA. I'm thinking I need both but for now, the swtich is in!

Best,

Gravity
not really the OPPOSITE direction....
because you'd NEVER trade the '06+ GT for that GS... :)

i DO miss my GS... but, not enough to ever considering getting rid of what most of us here feel is the greatest bike BMW has EVER built
 

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not really the OPPOSITE direction....
because you'd NEVER trade the '06+ GT for that GS... :)

i DO miss my GS... but, not enough to ever considering getting rid of what most of us here feel is the greatest bike BMW has EVER built
So then, I sell the GT (soon I hope) and acquire the GS, then shop for the 06/07 GT. I think that makes the garage happy!

Best of all worlds.!!

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So then, I sell the GT (soon I hope) and acquire the GS, then shop for the 06/07 GT. I think that makes the garage happy!

Best of all worlds.!!

Gravity
not considering the financial aspect of that decision (which is an unmitigated disaster, of course.... and NONE OF MY BUSINESS)...... this WOULD give you the best of both worlds
 

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Am I stupid to trade my GS for the GT

Well, I sat on the K12GT at the NY motorcycle show today. It seemed pretty comfortable and its a great looking bike. I started talking to one of the saleman there and I told him that I ride mostly around town in the suburbs where I live with occasional highway riding- totaling about 2,000 miles per year. He seemed to frown upon the GT for my particular type of riding emphasizing that this is a touring machine, not an around town bike run erands on and have a little fun with. Am I stupid for wanting this bike for local 10-30 mile jaunts.

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Well, I sat on the K12GT at the NY motorcycle show today. It seemed pretty comfortable and its a great looking bike. I started talking to one of the saleman there and I told him that I ride mostly around town in the suburbs where I live with occasional highway riding- totaling about 2,000 miles per year. He seemed to frown upon the GT for my particular type of riding emphasizing that this is a touring machine, not an around town bike run erands on and have a little fun with. Am I stupid for wanting this bike for local 10-30 mile jaunts.

Jay

that salesman is a jackass
OF COURSE the bike is a touring machine
but.... it is YOUR money
and the bike is great
and it'll be the BEST bike on earth for "10-30 mile jaunts" if that's what YOU have in mind for it

that salesman ought to be fired
buy the GT
you'll love it

sorry for my bad language but nothing infuriates me more than sales people who try to interject THEIR opinions about a bike when FACTS are what is called for
 

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Well, I sat on the K12GT at the NY motorcycle show today. It seemed pretty comfortable and its a great looking bike. I started talking to one of the saleman there and I told him that I ride mostly around town in the suburbs where I live with occasional highway riding- totaling about 2,000 miles per year. He seemed to frown upon the GT for my particular type of riding emphasizing that this is a touring machine, not an around town bike run erands on and have a little fun with. Am I stupid for wanting this bike for local 10-30 mile jaunts.

Jay
The salesman is talking rubbish - this bike is fun even for a 3 mile commute. I must warn you however, that 'local' riding does have a habit of becoming slighter wider ranging, just because it's so much fun. My dealer is only 15 miles away and I sometimes drop in just for the ride. The return journey often ends up as a 70 mile 'detour' :) If you get a GT then expect your annual mileage to go up a bit (or even rather a lot...!!).

Solution? Get a test ride - even if it's only 10-30 miles I will almost guarantee you'll come back with a smile on your face.
 

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If virtually all of your riding is on pavement, the GT should be a great choice and provide much better weather protection, especially for the legs. Your wife may not notice the height difference unless she is driving? I think the K-bike will always feel heavier, and you will only think about the CG again if you have to pick it up. If your GS is 2004 or older, the weight difference won't as noticeable.

I test rode a 2007 GS two and a half months ago, expecting over half of the mileage to be short commuting, plus a bunch of highway and a bit of gravel road touring. Then I test rode my K12RS, and for a bargain price, I couldn't leave without it. I still lust after one of the newer GS's, but may have to part with the vintage BMW or wait a couple of years.
 

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Well, I sat on the K12GT at the NY motorcycle show today. It seemed pretty comfortable and its a great looking bike. I started talking to one of the saleman there and I told him that I ride mostly around town in the suburbs where I live with occasional highway riding- totaling about 2,000 miles per year. He seemed to frown upon the GT for my particular type of riding emphasizing that this is a touring machine, not an around town bike run erands on and have a little fun with. Am I stupid for wanting this bike for local 10-30 mile jaunts.

Jay
Yeah, and then he tells me that I would be getter off with an F650.
 

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Yeah, and then he tells me that I would be getter off with an F650.

sounds like he ought to be fired...
because trying to sell everyone a cheaper bike is a sure way to put your dealership OUT of business

he's a jerk.... or, at the very least...... MISinformed
go buy your bike elsewhere
 

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a short story illustrating another dumb dealer

1996
i want to testride an R1100RT
the closest dealer is 1.5 hours away
i call to see IF they have one to testride...
we get into a conversation about my desires for a bike and he finds out that i am 5'6" tall
he immediately tells me NOT to come down
that the bike is TOO TALL for me... and i ought NOT to bother testriding it

so....
i hang up
discouraged.... almost distraught

i call the other dealer..... 3 MONTHS LATER
2 hours away
he tells me to come over and find out for myself
we go out for a testride....
after riding for 20 minutes on all kinds of roads
he takes me to some brand new/abandoned parking lot
and MAKES me..... yes..... MAKES ME do "figure 8s" for 15 minutes

he FORCED me to get "COMFORTABLE" with the bike
he became a great friend after that
of course.... i bought the bike in Orlando
and.... learned that being 2 hours from my house.... was a GOOD THING when it came to taking BMWs in for service...
gave me a great excuse to ride

now..... HE was a great salesman
oh....
who was he

John Elko from BMW of Orlando
 

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Fixinbones:
Dumb salesman..Many years ago, I convinced my wife that instead of a second car to commute to the train station, I should go back to motorbikes.

"yes" she said ! The next day, I bought a little 100 cc bike, but it was too light. Then I got a 400 cc and it sufficed for a few months. I started taking a few 20 mile rides and then 30, etc. etc. Within a year, I was on a 750, then an 1100.

The commute is still there on occassiopns, but, I am now taking much longer afternoon or early evening rides. The new GT is perfect for the 3 mile jaunt into town, the 20 mile friendly ride in the environs and the 100 to 150 miler on a regular basis.

This bike is so nimble, easy to stear and really feels much lighter than my previous KRS.

Go for a test ride and find out for yourself !
 
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